Life is Feudal Official Forum

[Agathius]

There is many game breaking aspects in console that need to be removed. I believe enabling it on the first place was bad in such a game. Examples of commands:

Transferring into IB with ID
Zooming in and out (Setfov(number) )
FogPostDisable
Scripts that function via exec(command);

I think it would fix a lot of aspects.
It would break one, the auto hitting and auto parrying. But the game, since you base on us to hit each other's armor and wep like handicapped, ought to have something of the short of autoclicking withought needing to get GS or any script.

[Kybern]

Completely agree! +1

[Faenor]

the command to entlist into ib is a good thing because it spares a lot of time for everyone, so you dont have to place 20 charackters all over the world.

[Hodo]

the command for entlist into ib is a good thing because it spares a lot of time for everyone, so you dont have to place 20 charackters all over the world.

And it prevents some groups from exploiting numbers by logging in on one tile and crashing it preventing people from joining the IB.

[Karaknor]

I agree !
I even don't know how these commands work except IB window one.

[Kybern]

the command to entlist into ib is a good thing because it spares a lot of time for everyone, so you dont have to place 20 charackters all over the world.

It removes an essential part of the game: playing on an open world map.

The only reason we have IBs in the first place is because we can't have big fights in open world due to lag.

By having remote joining, the central, open world element of the game is circumvented and the game is transformed into an arena combat game. If you want that go play 4Honor or something.

This is not what LiF MMO is supposed to be about.
It is supposed to be about an open world MMO.

the command for entlist into ib is a good thing because it spares a lot of time for everyone, so you dont have to place 20 charackters all over the world.

And it prevents some groups from exploiting numbers by logging in on one tile and crashing it preventing people from joining the IB.

Each side has TWO locations to join the IB from: the attacker's/defender's monuments and the totem itself. AND there are 24 hours to do so.
This argument is invalid.

[Faenor]

you are one the wrong server
What do you think pvp means dude? If you dont like combat than join a pve server when combat takes over there you can complaining about it.

Yeah Ibs are fun and as you I would prefer open world battles where two armies can meet each other without getting transferd to an extra server.

For me IBs are the little extra in the game much more fun are the open world fights but with 100 players on one edge of a server you have mostly a ping of 600+.

edit:
And yeah I would like it to travel 1h to the totem and than 1h back great...what an game experience when you also have to cross a server border.

[Kybern]

you are one the wrong server
What do you think pvp means dude? If you dont like combat than join a pve server when combat takes over there you can complaining about it.

Yeah Ibs are fun and as you I would prefer open world battles where two armies can meet each other without getting transferd to an extra server.

For me IBs are the little extra in the game much more fun are the open world fights but with 100 players on one edge of a server you have mostly a ping of 600+.

You do realize that what makes the PVP server "PVP" is the differences in OPEN WORLD PVP right? Ever heard of Judgement Hour?
If anything, YOU are on the wrong server, since you don't want to fight in open world. Lag is just an excuse, if you don't bring hordes, you can have very good open world pvp.

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And yeah I would like it to travel 1h to the totem and than 1h back great...what an game experience when you also have to cross a server border.

LMAO
Hey! NOBODY is forcing you to fight enemies that are 1 hour (!) away.... I'm sure there are PLENTY of guilds on your server that you could put IBs on, no?

[Hodo]

Each side has TWO locations to join the IB from: the attacker's/defender's monuments and the totem itself. AND there are 24 hours to do so.
This argument is invalid.

You dont play on Buyan do you? Where a server tile can be down for 20-36 hours at a stretch. Or if a guild with 30+ people cross a server line to many times in a row they will crash the tile.

Yeah it is that bad.

[Tetsel]

edit:
And yeah I would like it to travel 1h to the totem and than 1h back great...what an game experience when you also have to cross a server border.

It's not about the destination, it's about the journey.
What could happen on that road to your IB...?
ho wait open world pvp maybe ? Some unexpected epic stuff, you will tell about your grand childrens about !

[Kybern]

Each side has TWO locations to join the IB from: the attacker's/defender's monuments and the totem itself. AND there are 24 hours to do so.
This argument is invalid.

You dont play on Buyan do you? Where a server tile can be down for 20-36 hours at a stretch. Or if a guild with 30+ people cross a server line to many times in a row they will crash the tile.

Yeah it is that bad.

Admittedly, I play on Avalon, but if it really is that bad, then just keep it for servers that have these severe issues, not for those that don't.

[Faenor]

@Kybern nope here are not plenty of them,
and I never said that I m not fighting in open world fights lol
Where did I said that?

I said that open world fights with 200 players are not possible right now. Not so hard to understand right?

Seems to be pretty useless to talk to you...

It's not about the destination, it's about the journey.
What could happen on that road to your IB...?
ho wait open world pvp maybe ? Some unexpected epic stuff, you will tell about your grand childrens about !

you have really no clue about traveling in the mountain area do you?
The only enemy you will face is the lag and trees.

[Kybern]

Seems pvp for you is only 200vs200. Fact is: it's not.

Most pvp in this game is small scale skirmishing, disrupting daily activities of your enemies.

There is a time and place for IBs, but if anything they are the culmination of the small skirmishing. And for it to be that, it has to be bound to the area where this skirmishing takes place. This means ideally the IB map is from that server and most importantly you need to go there to sign up (at the very least).

And again, if you don't want to travel that far to IBs, there are 2 choices for you:
1) pick a fight with someone closer
2) move closer to your enemies

Kinda obvious...

[Faenor]

@KYBERN

And again are you not able to read? Why are you allways assume somthing that no one said.
Thats why it is useless to talk to you dude.

When did I said this?
"Seems pvp for you is only 200vs200. "

"since you don't want to fight in open world."

quote or pls stfu mate you are like a little child

[Monco]

Console has to be disabled, the only bad thing would be the removal of connecttogameserver, onworldcreated and sfxinit commands.
IB remote signup is a joke in a game like this one, open world pvp sandbox where open world pvp is almost completely dead.

[Kybern]

Sure i'll quote you:

For me IBs are the little extra in the game much more fun are the open world fights but with 100 players on one edge of a server you have mostly a ping of 600+.

I said that open world fights with 200 players are not possible right now.

You talk about open world pvp exclusively in the context of 100+ player battles:
Hence me saying it seems for you it's only about mass pvp.

Here's some more quotes:

Seems to be pretty useless to talk to you...

quote or pls stfu mate you are like a little child

Don't have any arguments: better use insults. Good idea.

Fact is: NO ONE is saying IBs shouldn't happen, no one is saying mass pvp shouldn't happen.
Not Agathius. Not me.
So not only are you insulting, you are arguing past the point of this thread.

And this point was: If you want to IB, you better put in the BARE MINIMUM effort of at least moving your character to the conflict zone. And this is really bare minimum, since you are not even participating in the real conflict: the local fight between 2 guilds.

[Faenor]

And again Kybern you are assume things, I do take part in open world fights doesnt matter if it is a raid, defensive battle or even a little skyrmish I also travel sometimes for this more than half a hour because my other pvp char is not ready yet.

And I m pissed of you because you saying stuff that isnt true the point is still that IBs are the only way for big scale armies to fight each other without laggs.

With the option to entlist per concole command makes the life a lot easier.
And as I said befor when you want to take part in fighting without it you need a sec. char placed close to the frontlines and when the frontline is huge you need even more or a lot of time spending with traveling.

ecit:
And btw. with quote I mean tell me where I said that I dont do pvp in open world or I only like big scale battles.

[Kybern]

That is the cost of being in a huge coalition.

You get to build your guild in a pvp-free server, but of course if you want pvp then you have to travel far to get it.

Pretty simple. This is why i'm shaking my head about your argument.

If you want more and easier to access pvp, then move to a hostile server.

OR (if you don't wanna move):

Leave your coalition and declare war on them.

Again, very simple solutions.

[Faenor]

And I m shaking my head about it that you would* really accepting mutliple accounts just to take part in a battle thats not even on the open world server.

[Kybern]

What multiple accounts? No one is forcing you to have multiple accounts.... You don't even need multiple characters (although having them is an easy way out of the problem).

As I said now THREE times:

IF you want more pvp, you have TWO options:

1) Leave your coalition and declare war on them. I guarantee you, you will have plenty of pvp Right at your doorstep too!

2) Build your guild closer to your enemies. Again, plenty of pvp, plus the new experience of building a claim WHILE you pvp. Sounds good, no?

[Tetsel]

you have really no clue about traveling in the mountain area do you?
The only enemy you will face is the lag and trees.

Yeah like nobody in this game ever spawn in server 47, of course I know what traveling in the mountain is, and that's exactly where I would set and ambush. Thanks for helping my point.
What is your next argument ? "what about people that settle on that island on server 1"
That's what we are all arguing here, local conflict, politics maters, more gameplay in open world etc etc

But all you have is "muh travelling, I'm lazy, target to far"

[Faenor]

Travling isnt boring and yes maybe I m lazy but I dont have the time just to travel every second day 1/2h to the enemy and back. To travel to real enemies is for me not just a little trip for the next hour. Mostly it takes much longer.
But it s fine I allready have a sec. pvp char until he is skilled it doesnt matter any way.

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@kybern
We are talking still about IBs and how to get into it...
Not about having more pvp, skyrmish in open world mmo thats another task.

[Tetsel]

Travling isnt boring and yes maybe I m lazy but I dont have the time just to travel every second day 1/2h to the enemy and back. To travel to real enemies is for me not just a little trip for the next hour. Mostly it takes much longer.

tl;dr you want that hardcore medieval MMO™ to be easier cause you don't have time. ok noted

[Arrakis]

We are working on the solution for the console command abuse. Disabling it completely atm won't be the best course of action, as a lot of players can often only connect with connecttogameserver and onworldcreated commands.

[Yhym]

Remove it as fast is possible, soon we will have game full of cheat, i think some people already using something for crossbow, i can understand some people are skilled in this, but they can't be so pro, i am also Ranger. When somebody running like a crazy or is faar away from me, shooting to him isn't so easy. Most of people have problem with this, but since 3 days i regulary start meeting some super pro skilled people, sorry but i don't believe them. Not saying it's 100% auto aim, but maybe modified crosshair which is showing distance...

After my message here i found something like this on official youtube channel, how to set the same distance meter ?

https://youtu.be/F5n4onR4ISo?t=119

[Mndfreeze]

I didn't see anything on that video you linked that had a distance meter or anything???

[Ilja]

The moment console command to enlist went public, a big part of open world pvp just died, it was quite fun to go enlist and then pick a fight on the way. Now we can together work the ideas out how to find solid ground where both sides will be happy with it.

So making a mechanic that allows every guild monument in the world to access enlist window for any battle would be a bit overkill, how about limiting that to a server node? For example a claim from 36 put a IB on claim from server 26, and that Battle would show up on every guild monument in these servers. Makes easier for everyone, even when u have to travel 2 server nodes and makes open world pvp more alive again.

[Tetsel]

We are working on the solution for the console command abuse. Disabling it completely atm won't be the best course of action, as a lot of players can often only connect with connecttogameserver and onworldcreated commands.

Are you confirming that the remote connection to IB is an abuse that will be remove from the game ?

[Agathius]

Once more it is found out what Console can do, such as lagging out ppl near you. When will this be removed?

[Arrakis]

Can't give specific ETA, but we are getting closer.