Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Linbaba » 17 Feb 2017, 20:31

Hallegra wrote:I can't be the only one concerned about another 2 week mmo test followed by 2 months of nothing... wave 2 is already 8mos delayed considering the announced wave 1 end date of summer 2016


I think a lot of people are concerned about a lot of things but don't really take the time to say it.

I'm REALLY confused because the information I've been reading, including "official" information, and what is being announced doesn't fit....

Way I see it, whoever got to play in the first Beta will get another 2 weeks starting on the 20th of February.

After that, more downtime and a wipe before beta 2 / wave 2 / test run 2 / open beta / basically the launch because open beta is the launch.

Which would mean that open beta / launch would be next month and not (as said previously) "towards the end of 2017.

Either way I'm fine with but I think they could seriously improve on their communication, it's very very messy.


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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Sharana » 17 Feb 2017, 20:39

Linbaba wrote:After that, more downtime and a wipe before beta 2 / wave 2 / test run 2 / open beta / basically the launch because open beta is the launch.


Nowhere even near that. They are still working on getting the stuff stable to a point where it can stay open for longer periods. Also there is so much content to be added before wipe and beta 2 can happen. It's the summer for now as best case. Till then wave 1 "phases" or "testruns" with much smaller downtimes.

If they move to wave 2 next month or so that will mean broken big promise that will piss so many players.
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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Linbaba » 17 Feb 2017, 20:50

Sharana wrote:
Linbaba wrote:After that, more downtime and a wipe before beta 2 / wave 2 / test run 2 / open beta / basically the launch because open beta is the launch.


Nowhere even near that. They are still working on getting the stuff stable to a point where it can stay open for longer periods. Also there is so much content to be added before wipe and beta 2 can happen. It's the summer for now as best case. Till then wave 1 "phases" or "testruns" with much smaller downtimes.

If they move to wave 2 next month or so that will mean broken big promise that will piss so many players.



But it was confirmed that the one and only wipe would happen at the end of wave 1, which is relauching on the 20th and will end 2 weeks after.

So basically, wipe in 3 weeks or so... after wipe I don't know....


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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Sharana » 17 Feb 2017, 20:56

Linbaba wrote:But it was confirmed that the one and only wipe would happen at the end of wave 1, which is relauching on the 20th and will end 2 weeks after.


That's absolutely right, but who said wave 1 is ending in 2 weeks?

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As of that date the system wasn't even in development as there are more important tasks first.
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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Linbaba » 17 Feb 2017, 21:45

Sharana wrote:
Linbaba wrote:But it was confirmed that the one and only wipe would happen at the end of wave 1, which is relauching on the 20th and will end 2 weeks after.


That's absolutely right, but who said wave 1 is ending in 2 weeks?

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As of that date the system wasn't even in development as there are more important tasks first.



In the announcement :

Breaking news! Second test run of LiF:ММО CBT(wave #1) will start on February 20th and we’re planning on it being held for two weeks - save the date and get excited!


doesn't "holding it for two weeks" mean that it will last two weeks?

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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Sharana » 17 Feb 2017, 21:47

This "phase 2" of wave 1 yes. The one in December last year (let's call it phase 1) was wave 1 as well.
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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Linbaba » 17 Feb 2017, 21:55

Sharana wrote:This "phase 2" of wave 1 yes. The one in December last year (let's call it phase 1) was wave 1 as well.



whatever it is, wave 1, test run 2 beta 1, or whatever, it's starting again on 20th, it's lasting 2 weeks, and at the end of it, there will be a wipe.

And the wipe, was (again, "officially") confirmed to mark the end of closed beta and start of open beta, athough now it seems that it was pushed back to the begining of beta 2 so that the time line goes like this :

-> wave 1 suspended
-> wave 1 relaunch 20th of February
-> relaunch will last 2 weeks
-> servers go down again (probably 2 weeks)
-> full wipe
-> beta 2 / wave 2 (not open beta)
-> maybe servers down again (maybe not)
-> open beta / soft launch

So the wipe has moved from the end of beta 2 and beginning of open beta to the end of beta 1 and the beginning of beta 2.

Though of course, I could be misinterpreting all of this information, but really, how complicated could it be?


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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Trance67 » 17 Feb 2017, 22:08

Where was there a wipe mentioned to be happening at the end of this phase of Wave 1?

I haven't seen that anywhere that I've looked so far, so unless myself and several other people like Sharana are wrong, then this is just another part of Wave 1 which will not be wiped at the end.

It seems to me they'll take the servers down, do some updates, and bring them back up again. Hopefully much faster this time.


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Post by Linbaba » 17 Feb 2017, 22:36

Trance67 wrote:Where was there a wipe mentioned to be happening at the end of this phase of Wave 1?

I haven't seen that anywhere that I've looked so far, so unless myself and several other people like Sharana are wrong, then this is just another part of Wave 1 which will not be wiped at the end.

It seems to me they'll take the servers down, do some updates, and bring them back up again. Hopefully much faster this time.


here :

5. end of wave 1 means full wipe?
Answer: Yes, we've stated it in news.


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As to your second paragraph, same post :

6. wave 2 will start immediately when wave 1 ends?
Answer: Well, might need a week or two to get everything prepared.


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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Trance67 » 18 Feb 2017, 00:34

Yes I see. I think you're still not understanding their answers.

Yes there will definitely be a wipe at the end of Wave 1; I know it, you know it, everybody knows it.


However in 2 weeks it is NOT the END of Wave 1. It will be the end of one of the PARTS of Wave 1. Just as this rather long "holiday break" for the last 2 months was after the end of PART 1 of Wave 1, so too will this next break be between PART 2 and PART 3 of Wave 1.


Then the second thing you put up says that Wave 2 will not start immediately after Wave 1 ends. Which is fine, I never really expected that anyway.


Wave 2 is still not really scheduled to begin at any time. Wave 1 hasn't even ended yet! You're taking the end of another Part of Wave 1 and a break for them to fix things before another Part of Wave 1 into being the end of Wave 1. That's where you're getting things wrong.


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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Kedishka » 18 Feb 2017, 02:03

I'm sorry but two weeks is not worth my time. I've been checking the forums daily to know when the servers come back on but two weeks. Time to move onto another game until at least wave two.


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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by RaskolnickOFF » 18 Feb 2017, 06:46

two weeks is nothing.... news comes better and better :crazy:


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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Sycopata666 » 18 Feb 2017, 11:00

Thats why corp mates think about this: we prefer keep in conan... Grats you are killing the fan base. Keep the autism. but nex time you decide sell a beta pass try to keep it Open to avoid people hate you.


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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Linbaba » 18 Feb 2017, 11:05

Trance67 wrote:Yes I see. I think you're still not understanding their answers.

Yes there will definitely be a wipe at the end of Wave 1; I know it, you know it, everybody knows it.


However in 2 weeks it is NOT the END of Wave 1. It will be the end of one of the PARTS of Wave 1. Just as this rather long "holiday break" for the last 2 months was after the end of PART 1 of Wave 1, so too will this next break be between PART 2 and PART 3 of Wave 1.



Please could you provide a source for your information? (like I did).


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Post by Arthur Pendragon » 18 Feb 2017, 12:45

Linbaba wrote:
Trance67 wrote:Yes I see. I think you're still not understanding their answers.

Yes there will definitely be a wipe at the end of Wave 1; I know it, you know it, everybody knows it.


However in 2 weeks it is NOT the END of Wave 1. It will be the end of one of the PARTS of Wave 1. Just as this rather long "holiday break" for the last 2 months was after the end of PART 1 of Wave 1, so too will this next break be between PART 2 and PART 3 of Wave 1.



Please could you provide a source for your information? (like I did).


You are both providing info based on asumptions, there is no evidence for or against there being more phases of Wave1.

The truth, after these two weeks of Phase2/Wave 1 nobody knows what will happen next...


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Post by Linbaba » 18 Feb 2017, 12:49

Arthur Pendragon wrote:
Linbaba wrote:
Trance67 wrote:Yes I see. I think you're still not understanding their answers.

Yes there will definitely be a wipe at the end of Wave 1; I know it, you know it, everybody knows it.


However in 2 weeks it is NOT the END of Wave 1. It will be the end of one of the PARTS of Wave 1. Just as this rather long "holiday break" for the last 2 months was after the end of PART 1 of Wave 1, so too will this next break be between PART 2 and PART 3 of Wave 1.



Please could you provide a source for your information? (like I did).


You are both providing info based on asumptions, there is no evidence for or against there being more phases of Wave1.

The truth, after these two weeks of Phase2/Wave 1 nobody knows what will happen next...


he is, I'm not, I provided a link to a thread in which Arrakis answered those questions, and I copy pasted the answers in response to recent questions.

The only thing that hasn't been said officialy (afaik) and for which it seems no one has official informatin, is how many parts Wave 1 / Beta 1 will have.

We all knew there would be 2, but it wasn't confirmed anywhere whether there would be 2, 3, 4, or 29 parts to wave 1..


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Post by Aout » 18 Feb 2017, 14:47

2 weeks ? So our trees still won't be grown up at the end. :(

I mean ... we had like 2 weeks to "test" grinding up our skills. Now we have 2 weeks to "test" waiting for our shit to grow. At least speed things up x10 ..


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Post by Oleski » 18 Feb 2017, 16:38

Someone can tell my why it will be only 2 weeks open?
Just the reason. Im just assuming, they will colect data from 2 weeks, and closed server. So why they can't collect data from next 2 weeks and just dont closed server? Just dont get it. What that bothers?
What i have seen, that server running 24/7 they just closed, but not shutdown.


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Post by Zodiac2809 » 18 Feb 2017, 18:04

This is the latest roadmap that was postet from Arrakis:
http://lifeisfeudal.com/forum/feeling-enlightened-now-t21250/

But we want to clarify that, generally those stages/waves plan will be executed, just with a few corrections


Just FYI

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Post by Falkvard » 18 Feb 2017, 18:09

Oleski wrote:Someone can tell my why it will be only 2 weeks open?
Just the reason. Im just assuming, they will colect data from 2 weeks, and closed server. So why they can't collect data from next 2 weeks and just dont closed server? Just dont get it. What that bothers?
What i have seen, that server running 24/7 they just closed, but not shutdown.

In my opinion if they leave the MMO servers open, they will need to attend, solve issues, they will keep receiving bug reports etc. which will take away some of their effort from fixing the bugs and programming. In the end it would delay wave 2. There is the time of observing and then there is the time of working on what you have observed. You cant do both efficiently at the same time.


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Post by Linbaba » 18 Feb 2017, 18:41

Zodiac2809 wrote:This is the latest roadmap that was postet from Arrakis:
http://lifeisfeudal.com/forum/feeling-enlightened-now-t21250/

But we want to clarify that, generally those stages/waves plan will be executed, just with a few corrections


Just FYI

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that's interesting, thanks I hadn't seen that.

They say
Duration (aprox.): A few months, hopefully we will finish late Q1 2017


I guess they weren't expecting the downtime to be so long, cause had we started when they were aiming (end of Janury), we would have had more than a full month and then some before servers go down again in preperation for beta 2.

What I find surprising is that there will be a full wipe BEFORE Beta 2 and Beta 2 will last 0.5 to 1 year and that is followed by release. Which means, if I understand correctly, that "beta 2" is the "open beta" or that there will not be an open beta?

Cause if the wipe comes just before "soft launch", that basically means that the game is launching in about 3 weeks...


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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Bestial » 19 Feb 2017, 01:28

30 buks for 4 weeks game play, yay


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Post by Zodiac2809 » 19 Feb 2017, 07:43

that's interesting, thanks I hadn't seen that


You're welcome :)


Bestial wrote:30 buks for 4 weeks game play, yay


And supporting them to let the MMO become great and get an extra ticket for 1 more char ;)


When the wave#1 is finished you can expect, that they have enough data alright, that they can run it for 2 weeks only and push the wave#2 fast after this.
So you can expect, that the beta wave#2 (0,5 - 1 year) is here faster than planed before and you can play a long time earlier :D

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Post by Robjames5 » 19 Feb 2017, 19:54

20th Feb Relaunch...

20th Feb is in 1hour in Moscow... Any idea how long today I have to stare at my screen to see GREEN.....

some kind of actual time would be nice....


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Post by Linbaba » 19 Feb 2017, 20:18

Robjames5 wrote:20th Feb Relaunch...

20th Feb is in 1hour in Moscow... Any idea how long today I have to stare at my screen to see GREEN.....

some kind of actual time would be nice....



obviously, I don't know more than you, but maybe office hours would be a good estimate?

like, 8/9 am or a few hours after that?

I would be surprised if they opened them up during the night.


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Post by Zodiac2809 » 19 Feb 2017, 21:55

They said "at evening". And before the last wave they said this too and the servers opened at 11:30pm (GMT +1)

FYI

I hope, this time it will be earlier =)

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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Mage » 20 Feb 2017, 02:35

Nice! :Yahoo!:
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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Cosimo » 20 Feb 2017, 06:28

2 weeks... that seems awfully too short. I know I read people theorizing that it will be 2 weeks on, 1 week off 2 weeks on etc etc, but it would be nice to get an official status from the game's boss himself.


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Post by Zodiac2809 » 20 Feb 2017, 09:03

Ggarzelli wrote:2 weeks... that seems awfully too short. I know I read people theorizing that it will be 2 weeks on, 1 week off 2 weeks on etc etc, but it would be nice to get an official status from the game's boss himself.


Look what i posted before:

http://lifeisfeudal.com/forum/feeling-enlightened-now-t21250/


Better the wave#1 is so short, that means, the game runs better than excepted before and they dont need so much time to go to beta wave#2 and the release!

Beta wave#2:

Start date (aprox.): In a few weeks after the end of Beta Wave #1


So you will have the wave#2 soon and then there is no wipe after it ;)

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Re: Development News #39 - ‘Custom Maps and Awesome Apps’

Post by Elder » 20 Feb 2017, 09:21

Bestial wrote:30 buks for 4 weeks game play, yay


I think you would be able to play afterwards Wave #1, or am I wrong?

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