Life is Feudal Official Forum

[Agathon]

I know you guys love your ghost patches, patching something for the first person who whines the loudest, but really? Horse health was already pretty fragile especially for spiriteds / normals.

Now hardies are 240... and heavies 300? So the thick ass armor covered heavy thats slow as shit compared to a hardy, only has 60 more hp? It can only take one more lance shot?

Do you guys even test your patches? Heavies are pretty much useless now, they're slow as shit and only 60 more hp than a hardy. So we might as well only ride hardies, so take out heavies while you're at it. Spiriteds? 150hp? Two good lance shots and the horse is dead. 250 was already very fragile, would have to avoid infantry to avoid getting wrecked. Now one of the hardest horses to train in the game, are pointless to leave the walls with as they'll die in two shots.

You literally just killed cavalry of any sort, all over a couple infantry bitching in the MMO chat. INB4 the anti-cav infantry come in and white knight for the new patch.

[Hodo]

I think the heavy handed nerfing of all horses was a bit much. But without looking at the numbers I couldnt tell you if it was good or bad.

I just know that heavies and hardies were harder to kill than a M1A2 Abrams.

[Ghalter]

I have more health than a spirited warhorse now.
Should give it a lance and it can piggyback on me into battle instead.

[Hodo]

I have more health than a spirited warhorse now.
Should give it a lance and it can piggyback on me into battle instead.

If you can run as fast and as long I would... because then I could fire my bow from your shoulders.

[Hervean]

A Lot of the consensus on our end is that it was a bit much. Will see how long it will last before massive complaints cause a waffle. In the meantime, means we can slaughter enemy horses faster by fielding a good anti-cav team.

Though if the horse could heal at a faster pace while not in motion, that would help a bit as well and make it more viable.

Any testing on mitigation for the heavy armor, or is it moot?

[Asimov]

Dont worry lancer boys. After you have killed 2-3 melee guys, and used 3 horses, you can come down and fight like men with only 1 weapon :-)

[Werebear]

I'm optimist...
  but absence in Bitbox...
erudite and educated game designers....
  ....will end with the fail of the release.

[Azzak]

It is a necessary nerf considering the power of cavalry, but it is definitely a bit too much on the heavy side.

[Jacobin6]

After the first night of PVP I think these horse changes are a great step in the right direction.

Horses have been over powered from the start and it has made combat one dimensional. This game needs combined arms to make the PVP more viable. Pikes still need to be addressed but this is a good start.

This game has been more like the World of Tanks not a Feudal style CPRG.

If this game is going to become a quality pvp game I would expect the world to get even tougher on Cavalry units moving forward. Horses will still remain over powered until Pikemen work correctly but this shows me they actually do want combined arms to work properly in this game.

[WestArcher]

Its fine, however heavy warhorses should be tweaked. Maybe some resist against slash/chop damage types? Perhaps a better threshold on stopping when impacting players?

[Asri]

I think it needs a little tweaking -- heavies in particular -- but cav did need a significant nerf. Cav has high damage, high mobility AND the horses acted as an extra health bar. It was too many benefits in a single class.