Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Sainse1 » 11 Mar 2017, 14:34

Asi si to nečetl celé.

Samozřejmě ničemu by to vlákno nepomohlo. Poukazoval jsem na to, že tu někdo založí vlákno "v dobrým slovu" aby dělal jak informuje o dění na MMO, ale ve finále, je to spíše takový nábory vlákno, kde se ukazuje jak je někdo hrozně silnej a jak u ostatních si nikdo neškrtne.

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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Filipsss » 21 Apr 2017, 06:27

Nový test run vlny #1 začína už budúci týždeň.


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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Filipsss » 28 Apr 2017, 05:27

Nový test run je tu.

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http://lifeisfeudal.com/forum/post99632/


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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Chuto » 04 May 2017, 17:38

No, tak dám priebežné info Z tejto vlny.
1. Nový launcher funguje dobre a sú minimálne problémy pripojiť sa :Yahoo!:
2. servery nepadajú. crash som mal iba 1-2x aj to z dôvodu eagov a prechodov na zalagované servery.
3. Prechody serverov sú stále problém ale existuje spôsob ako bezpečne prejsť (bez straty kona).
4. LAG. vel'ky problém od spustenia vlny. už našli dôvod a fix bude zajtra, tj piatok.
5. personal Claim - funguje, len musíte vediet ako ho rozšírit (nerastie sám od seba len tak)

vzhladom na lagy mnoho ludi nehrá. Ak v piatok fixnú lag, tak bude cez víkend JH. uvidíme čo na to povedia servery.


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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Chuto » 06 May 2017, 21:15

No, tak sobotné JH bol vel'ky Lagfest. 100 bojovníkov šlo na juh, to bol zhruba 250-300 Ping, Čož nieje taká katastrofa. Po pridaní nového patchu tesne pred JH Ping skočil na 1500. následne bolo rozhodnuté, že v takych lagoch je to nehraténé a vojsko sa pobralo domov, kde sa následne odohral boj medzi BP a USH. Lagy, lagy, lagy... BP porazilo USH.

Medzitym malá skupina z BP ostala na juhu so zámerom dostat' sa k Csk, čo sa asi po 10 min stavania rebríka pod palbou bez vlastných strát aj podarilo. Následne krátka inšpekcia a bol koniec JH.

verím, že do zajtra fixnú opäť lagy pri vel'kých počtoch hráčov na serveri, inak žiadne velké bitky nebudú.

Btw. som príjemne prekvapeny že prechody cez servery už tak neblbnú.


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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Chuto » 08 May 2017, 20:55

Nedeľné JH? fu... pokazili čo sa dalo, tak to radšej vypli a urobili rollback 4 hodiny dozadu.
Ale, jedno čo ma ako tak teší, že keď fungujú prechody /nie vždy a všade/, tak som aspoň zatiaľ nepostrehol, že by nejak veľmi prichádzame o kone. Stalo sa mi, že som párkrát prešiel server a zamrzlo mi to s tým, že som nevidel svoju postavu. Pred časom keď som sa relogol, tak som prišiel o kona, teraz.. neviem ako to urobili, ten kôň je na mieste kde mi to seklo a nie pod textúrou ako v minulosti. Takže aspoň malý úspech dev. teamu. :Yahoo!:

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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Kazar » 24 Jul 2017, 07:53

Zdravím,

vidím že v tomto topicu ticho, ako keby sa na MMO mape nič nedialo. I keď skoro to je aj pravda. Ale iba skoro.

Včera večer sa na fóre objavil otvorený list od guildy Askanians. Kde popisovali svoje skúsenosti a obavy z budúcnosti.
Guilda Askanians je nemecká, prevažne mierumilovná guilda. Má uzatvorený NaP(DoN) s obidvomi veľkými allianciami. Odmietla podieľať sa akomkoľvek globálnom konflikte medzi BP a USH. Jedinú vojnu čo mala vyhlásenú je proti DAC.

A práve tá jediná vojna a tento otvorený list veľa vysvetľuje, nielen o tomto konflikte, a ukazuje náturu všetkých strán.

Skúsim to popísať z môjho pohľadu a skúseností. Nesnažím sa tu nikoho urážať ani provokovať.

Na začiatok malá definícia pojmov.
BP-BloodPact. Alliancia viacerých guild v ktorom je aj BIA
USH-United Slavic Host. Alliancia rusky hovoriacich guild v ktorej je aj CSK. Rusky hovoriace guildy sú hl. predstavitelia alliancie.
DAC-Dark age coalition. Alliancia hlavne anglicky hovoriacih krajín.
BIA-nás asi poznáte.
CSK-Nordu asi tiež.

Poďme sa na to pozrieť najprv z pohľadu žabomyších vojen. Podľa mňa to dostatočne vystihuje podstatu správania sa.

Na začiatku bola nezhoda medzi BIA a CSK. Viedli sme nemilosrdnú vojnu s odhodlaním ju vyhrať. Žiaľ, takéto úmysly niesú tajné a Masoni, jedna z hlavných guild v USH, sa dozvedeli o našej nemilosrdnej vojne a dali CSK ponuku vassalstva a ochrany za úplnú podporu proti BP aj keď CSK nemá nič proti ostatným členom BP. Kto dáva pozor a je v obraze tak toto určite zachytil. CSK ponuku prijali. To znamená že Masoni, alebo USH, otočili jednu guildu proti BP.

Teraz iná príhoda iný pohľad, tá/ten ktorú popisuje otvorený list. Askanians hrali mierovo. Nechceli byť vo vojne a snažili sa spoznať okolitý guildy skrz obchod a prieskum. Jedinú vojnu ktorú mali bola proti DAC. Konkrétne proti guilde Dagfins. Keď sa začínal konflikt medzi BP a USH vyostrovať, USH prišli za Askanian-mi s ponukou.

Keďže DAC sú spojenci USH a guilda Askanians sídli v blízkosti DAC, tak sa DAC nemohli podielať na agresívnych akciách USH v takej miere ako by USH potrebovali. Ponuka znela citujem,
"Voláme po zrušení vojny medzi Askania a DAC, aby mohli bojovať spoločne s USH proti BP".

Čo to znamená ? USH chcelo otočiť ďalšiu guildu, Askania proti BP ?

Toto sa udialo pred aktuálnym test run-om.

Najnovšie, v aktuálnom test run-e, opäť budem citovať,

"V 4 kole vlny 1, diplomatický personál Askanianov bol informovaný USH, že nepriateľ Askanianov, DAC, bol integrovaný do ich veľkej alliancie ako vazal a tak preteky v zbrojení dvoch veľkých alliancií nabral nový rozmer."

Čo sa stalo ? USH, tým že si podnamanili DAC porušili NaP(DoN) s Askanianmi. Áno, niekto to môže považovať za porušenie. Ale čo tým sleduje USH ? Globálnu dominanciu ? Kto vie.
Možno si mysleli že otočia proti BP aj Askanians, možno niečo iné. Otázka je čo teraz s NaP s USH ?

Áno, Askania sa zachovala jednoducho, podľa starého príslovia.

Enemy of my enemy is my friend. Nepriateľ môjho nepriateľa je môj priateľ.
Guilda Askanians začala podporovať BP v boji proti USH dovtedy, kým DAC budú pod USH.


P.S.:
Kto vie po anglicky môže si stiahnúť a prečítať si sám kópiu stránky. Originál topic bol zmazaný za "nameing and shameing", preto vám originál poskytunúť nedokážem.
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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Chuto » 27 Jul 2017, 12:17

Tak opät malá recenzia cbt4.
Lag pri bežnej činnosti žiaden , prechody serverov - lepšie ako v minulosti - stratil som za ten test kona iba 1x. ked mi to aj pri prechode serveru padlo, kon bol na mieste po relogu.
Trading post funguje ako má. Problém je len nájst protistranu ak človek nepozná rozmiestnenie gild po mape.
čo sa lagu pri boji týka tak to je horsie (20v 20 je ešte únosné). Je ale zaujímave, že pokial na serveri nieje nepriatel (gilda čo je s nimi vojna) Server nelaguje aj ked tam je 90 ludí.Možno je problém tam. Ktovie.
celkovo si myslím, že urobili dost roboty čo sa optimalizácie týka, ale napriek tomu ešte stale je čo robit.
Asi najhoršie čo si mohol kazdy všimnút je úbytok populacie cca 250 hračov online počas testov. Pocas ctb1 bolo cca 800.
Je len na každom či chce alebo nechce hrat' ale tento signál si uvedomujú aj devs. a určite s tým budú (musia) nieco robit.

Ešte jedna vec. bude sa konat test Instant batte (IB). Kto má prístup može príst, ak nemá gildu môže kludne aj k nám (BIA) a pomoct devs. urobit hru lepšou pre všetkých. Nebudeme brat ohlad na trenice a nepriatel'stvá z minulosti. Ide tu teraz o test, nie o politiku. V dalšej vlne testu nebudú brané do úvahy výsledky IB a bude vlna spustená podla databáze z konca cbt4.

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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Sainse1 » 27 Jul 2017, 18:57

Nojono. Zkrátka politické hovna co do hry správně ani moc nepatří.
Už je čas aby se lidi v LiFku začli zabíjet bez politických iniciativ. :D

S DAC a UHS to bylo trochu jinak, než si každý myslí. Nebyl v tom nějaký záměr "globální moci" jak se různí konspirační teoretici LiF domnívají. Nicméně Askanians ale zároveň taky zrovna 3x nesympatizují ani s BP, že ? 8-)

Stejně polovina lidí ani neví kdo je nějaký Dark Age Coal,United Slavic,Blood Pact, lidi moc nesledujou tuhle politickou scénu pokuď nejsou členi výše zmíněných aliancí.

Pro ty z nás co to sledují z povzdálí s popcornem v ruce čeká asi ještě zábava :evil:


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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Kazar » 27 Jul 2017, 19:57

Vševediaci Sainse nám prišiel vysvetliť ako to všetko vlastne bolo.

Podľa ich vlastného vyjadrenia ktoré si čítal tak 4x nesypatizujú s USH keď s BP chcú spolupracovať.

Je krásne že vieš názor jednej strany. Ale never mu tak slepo.

Možno nesledujú ale ty to sleduješ tak ten post je možno aj pre teba a teda nebol zbytočný.
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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Sainse1 » 28 Jul 2017, 00:07

Neřekl jsem, že je zbytečný, je dobře, že postujete aktuální informace. I když, i z tvé strany je ten pohled značně zaujatý, polovinu věcí víš taky jen z jedné strany a stejně tak tomu na slepo věříš.

Líbí se mi jak stále poukazuješ na UHS, že jsou to takový ďáblové. No UHS zatím poskytli nejvíce FeedBacku pro Devs a jako jedinný nahlásili tzv. NighVision, který členové BP tak úspěšně používají (ano stejně jako členi UHS)

Nicméně si stále neupustil od svojich konspiračních teorií o tom jak někdo chce ovládnout svět MMO ,a že vše se musí točit kolem BP a UHS. No teď je tu i DAC, a další nová silná aliance se právě tvoří.

Nepřišel jsem vysvětlit jak to bylo, ale náhodou když se probírali záležitosti mezi UHS,DAC a řešili se tam i Askians, tak jsem měl tu možnost být u toho na TS/DS. Ale jak řikám, sleduju vše s popcornem v ruce a jen čekám co bude dál 8-)

Tak si užívej svoje politické záležitosti , určitě to všichni ocení :good:
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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Kazar » 28 Jul 2017, 03:37

Ja ťa naozaj niekedy nerozumiem. Na začiatok povieš že je dobré že postujem aktuálne info a nakoniec ironickú poznámku ktorá popiera začiatok. Ale to je asi len môj problém...

USH úspešne používa každý bug ktorý nájdu. Ja som mal možnosť byť na ts keď sa riešilo zneužívanie takýchto veľkých bugov až cheatov ako night vision. Všetci zúčastnení súhlasili na nepoužívaní takýchto cheatov. USH tam nebolo. Preto by som si tvrdenie dovolili otočiť.
který členové BP tak úspěšně používají (ano stejně jako členi UHS)
který členové USH tak úspěšne používají (ano stejně jako členi BP).

Toto tvrdenie nemáš nijako podložené. Tiež môžem povedať že BP dal najviac feedbacku pro devs.

Zatiaľ sa to všetko točí okolo BP a USH lebo na svete MMO nieje silnejšia alliancia ako tieto dve.
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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Sainse1 » 28 Jul 2017, 17:46

Tak já ti to osvětlím

Jsem rád, že dáváte informace z MMO, když nikdo jiný asi nemůže.

Moje vyjádření bylo čistě subjektivní abych přinesl i druhý názor pro hráče z jiné strany.

To, že jsem se vyjádřil nadsázkou a napsal, že to jsou hovna, jsem myslel vážně. Nicméně já to nemyslel, zle, že by tvůj post stál za hovno nebo byl zbytečný. Ale, myslel jsem to tak, že jsou zbytečný tyhle žabomyší politické války a všechny tyhle politické hovna co každý řeší.

Další věc, Sons of Odin členi BP hrajou na serveru kde jsme i my, a zde používají Night Vision, přepodkládám, že na TS tedy nebyli aby to odslouhlasili.

Když poprosíš Devs o vyjádření, tak ti potvrdí, že věci jako Night Vision , bugování přes stuck na hradby atd., nahlásila přesněji guilda Masons, tedy členi UHS, hned jak to objevila, nicméně to že devs trvá nějakou dobu to opravit je druhý problém.

Tak snad jsem ti osvětlil, jak jsem myslel můj první příspěvek, a že to nebylo myšleno zle vůči tobě nebo tvýmu postu, ale vůči všem těch zhovadilostí kolem politiky ve hře.
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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Chuto » 29 Jul 2017, 16:28

tak čo sa Night Vision týka ten používa takmer každý. to že tie noci urobili také tmavé tomu dost pomohlo. A čo sa nahlasovania bugov týka, je jedno kto to nahlásil prvý. dôležité je že o tom devs. vedia a odstránia ich.


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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Sharana » 29 Jul 2017, 17:10

Sorry that I couldn't hold myself, but the bullshit level was over the top.
The night vision game file was written by a russian from what I know. I got the file from USH not that long ago, so they were using it earlier. Claiming BP didn't show the file to devs as soon as they got it as well is ... won't even comment on that :pardon:
In the old night I didn't know how to boost up brightness to see during night (console command), learned that from USH guy. Same for rotating the PC clock like 1 year ago to skip night - I was told by USH members.
The autologin script - yes I got that one from USH as well...

I don't say that in the bad sense, but it's how it is. When guys play on competitive level they use everything they can get their hands on and that's allowed. Calling 1 side "better" like not using something or reporting it while the other isn't is pretty stupid and I'm sure you know that...
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Post by Sainse1 » 30 Jul 2017, 00:30

I dont throwing a shits on the wall. Just comment that there is still one sides opinion, which making from Russian only devils. Specially, when some member of BIA talking about UHS, they are talking of them like they are only noobs who can play only with bugs, cheats, atc.

I dont care of that, everybody can use whatever he want. But, Sharana, you also must know, that 80% of BP members, are using the same bugs/cheats/hacks, as UHS. As Chuto said "All are using the Night Vision. But Kazar said that on the disscusion on TS, they decided, that they will not use this. You know what i mean. But its ok, Im also using a gamma calibration, but i dont blame others, that im only one who is not using anything.

My argument, that UHS reporting these bugs for devs. was gived, cuz i know a lot of guys from UHS, also i know a lot of guys from BP. And I can say, thats there are a bad guys and good guys like everywhere. BP havent only good guys, and BP have not clear shield, as well as UHS. Thats why a reacted. I still read on this CZ/SK forum from BIA side, that only UHS are devils, blood pact are gods, and because of UHS there are bugs, cheats maybe global warming also, lul. So thats why i write the second side opinion, cuz i know that they are cool guys (some of them), and UHS SAME AS BP, trying to make this game better.

Every coin have two sides, as everybody. I understand that you are protecting your alliance, and thank you for your comment.
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Post by Sharana » 30 Jul 2017, 14:50

Sainse1 wrote:As Chuto said "All are using the Night Vision. But Kazar said that on the disscusion on TS, they decided, that they will not use this. You know what i mean.


To be fair it was not TS meeting - it was Discord one and it was organised by DAC. All guild representatives (Masons included as Anatolij was there) agreed that they shouldn't promote the use of such hacks (which was defined as game files modification) and leaders should give an example at least. Also no videos and stuff should be posted about this to avoid promotion/further spreading.

And 2 weeks later Anatolij posted a video where he uses the night vision. So there is that also...
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Post by Zohann » 31 Jul 2017, 11:25

Sharana wrote:Sorry that I couldn't hold myself, but the bullshit level was over the top.
The night vision game file was written by a russian from what I know. I got the file from USH not that long ago, so they were using it earlier. Claiming BP didn't show the file to devs as soon as they got it as well is ... won't even comment on that :pardon:
In the old night I didn't know how to boost up brightness to see during night (console command), learned that from USH guy. Same for rotating the PC clock like 1 year ago to skip night - I was told by USH members.
The autologin script - yes I got that one from USH as well...

I don't say that in the bad sense, but it's how it is. When guys play on competitive level they use everything they can get their hands on and that's allowed. Calling 1 side "better" like not using something or reporting it while the other isn't is pretty stupid and I'm sure you know that...



Sorry that I couldn't hold myself, but the bullshit level was over the top.

We, Masons, received this file from a Russian BP guild member. We were fighting them on one YO server. They were shooting arrows at us utterly from the darkness, just out of nowhere. We had no torches, and they were hitting in 100m distance. Lately a guy from that guild told us about this file before he left that guild, and told us that all the BP is using it already for a long time. Considerring the fact, that it totally disbalances the game, as we are totally blind while the enemy is not, we decided to counteruse it to balance.

Strangely, but we learn all the bugs from the BP themselves and thats the fact). For ex, looking at the video where Sharana made a character called Bobik the Machinegunner, made him invulnerable and with xbow machine gun bug and attack dagfinns on their server, we after some studies discoverred how he did that and sent this report to devs. We never used it ourselves, since whats the point in it? To have fun? But that is stupid! You just like want to mock people in fact, that "haha, I know more bugs then you do, so just eat this!"

Some people have twisted view on competiteveness. Making our beloved game - a game of bugs, where the one who knows more bugs is the winner, is totally wrong. But thats Sharana's point of view. He's representing one of the biggest communities, not the last man there, and hearing from that guy that "When guys play on competitive level they use everything they can get their hands on and that's allowed". That is not allowed, Mr Potato). But you will never understand it.

Actually, there is a good side in that BP are massively abusing game mechanics and looking for more ways to "win" to compensate the lack of skill. The more bugs they uncover and use them in combat, the more of them become public and get fixed faster. So, plz, continue).
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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Sharana » 31 Jul 2017, 11:47

Zohann wrote:looking at the video where Sharana made a character called Bobik the Machinegunner, made him invulnerable and with xbow machine gun bug and attack dagfinns on their server, we after some studies discoverred how he did that and sent this report to devs.


Boris the machine gun. And sorry to bring it to you, but members of USH guild showed me the bug and asked to bring it to the devs. Big thanks for that, because it's really a nasty bug and benefits everyone when it's fixed. That's march 26th late evening and I make this report video which is uploaded after midnight, so 27th already.
https://youtu.be/a6NkHRLuXlA
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Then skipping all the personal conversations and the 1. April fool that didn't happen as Saxxon suggested (would have been really funny) Tolik informs me the bug was fixed - that's 28th.
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So yes - I'm guilty of registering to the dagfins server AFTER THE DEVS HAD A HOTFIX (and 1 day before they bring it to YO) and trolling them really fast for a reason I won't won't disclose. Here it is:
https://youtu.be/YV4NrEmYp1I

But yes - you can live in a universe where it's me using exploits and it's you that are finding out and reporting it :)
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Post by Zohann » 31 Jul 2017, 12:07

Sharana wrote:
Zohann wrote:looking at the video where Sharana made a character called Bobik the Machinegunner, made him invulnerable and with xbow machine gun bug and attack dagfinns on their server, we after some studies discoverred how he did that and sent this report to devs.


Boris the machine gun. And sorry to bring it to you, but members of USH guild showed me the bug and asked to bring it to the devs. Big thanks for that, because it's really a nasty bug. That's march 26th late evening and I make this report video which is uploaded after midnight, so 27th already.
https://youtu.be/a6NkHRLuXlA
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Then skipping all the personal conversations and the 1. April fool that didn't happen as Saxxon suggested (would have been really funny) Tolik informs me the bug was fixed - that's 28th.
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So yes - I'm guilty of registering to the dagfins server AFTER THE DEVS HAD A HOTFIX (and 1 day before they bring it to YO) and trolling them really fast for a reason I won't won't disclose. Here it is:
https://youtu.be/YV4NrEmYp1I

But yes - you can live in a universe where it's me using exploits and it's you that are finding out and reporting it :)


So, you used this bug "to troll". Strangely, but we knew about this bug, though we never used it, even though we have many people to troll around. That just reveals your attitude. Like in CS people switch on cheats and get on servers and spoil evryone else's game "just to troll". And then such people go on forums to promote fairplay :ROFL:

Sharana, youve always been a fat troll).

Also, I just cant get that USH guys ask a BP guy to show some bugs to devs, cause they are unable to do it (??)
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Post by Sharana » 31 Jul 2017, 12:25

Zohann wrote:So, you used this bug "to troll". Strangely, but we knew about this bug, though we never used it, even though we have many people to troll around. That just reveals your attitude. Like in CS people switch on cheats and get on servers and spoil evryone else's game "just to troll". And then such people go on forums to promote fairplay :ROFL:

Sharana, youve always been a fat troll).

Also, I just cant get that USH guys ask a BP guy to show some bugs to devs, cause they are unable to do it (??)


If you knew about this bug, but never used it - why didn't the devs know about it? As you can see they learned about it from the video that I sent them and fixed it 1 day later saying big thanks for bringing that to them :pardon:

You can't get it, because it's politics for you. For others it's not. It happened that because of long history of cooperation reports that I PM get moved up faster then sending it via the mail. And because of that I get PMs about bugs/exploits that need attention not only from BP members, but USH and DAC also and this is not politics. Not a small part of the reports I'm sending come outside of BP.
About this specific bug I was told the exact same thing as usually - it's old bug, but more and more players start learning about it and some even started to use it - can you bring it up ASAP, so it's fixed before it becomes the next 1shot lance pandemia?
And it was indeed fixed in a matter of days as it's major exploit.

It's just funny how you contradict yourself:
Zohann wrote:we after some studies discoverred how he did that and sent this report to devs.

Zohann wrote:Strangely, but we knew about this bug, though we never used it, even though we have many people to troll around. That just reveals your attitude.


So which one is it? :) Because for me it's the 2nd given that I was poked "from your side" about it and asked to bring it up.
And it would be spoiling if it was JH or part of a raid, not going solo at prime time knowing there are GMs ON to ban me like 2 minutes after I kill a dagfin )
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Post by Zohann » 31 Jul 2017, 12:30

I just look at the posts. Masons are pretty much widely discussed, though, I presume, there is only shit about us. :D I really wonna understand wtf you are writing about us, but google translate does not help at all). And it makes me sad.

You know, I am Mason right from the very begining of the Masons as a serious PVP guild, (2 years), yet I actually cannot grasp what is so fking special about us?))) Why every single political thread is started with discussions about masons?)) We are just a small PVP guild, nothing more) Leave us alone).
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Post by Sharana » 31 Jul 2017, 12:36

Idk - the only place I said "Masons" is where I said that Anatolij was on a Discord meeting organised by DAC along with representatives of BP and many other guilds. The result was that everyone agreed not to post videos using the night vision "hack" and that leaders should at least give and example by not using it.
And Anatolij later on posted a video where it can be seen that he uses it.

If that's "every single political thread is started with discussions about masons" you have some strange views and just see your name even if it's not there :)
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Post by Zohann » 31 Jul 2017, 12:42

Sharana wrote:
Zohann wrote:So, you used this bug "to troll". Strangely, but we knew about this bug, though we never used it, even though we have many people to troll around. That just reveals your attitude. Like in CS people switch on cheats and get on servers and spoil evryone else's game "just to troll". And then such people go on forums to promote fairplay :ROFL:

Sharana, youve always been a fat troll).

Also, I just cant get that USH guys ask a BP guy to show some bugs to devs, cause they are unable to do it (??)


If you knew about this bug, but never used it - why didn't the devs know about it? As you can see they learned about it from the video that I sent them and fixed it 1 day later saying big thanks for bringing that to them :pardon:

You can't get it, because it's politics for you. For others it's not. It happened that because of long history of cooperation reports that I PM get moved up faster then sending it via the mail. And because of that I get PMs about bugs/exploits that need attention not only from BP members, but USH and DAC also and this is not politics. Not a small part of the reports I'm sending come outside of BP.
About this specific bug I was told the exact same thing as usually - it's old bug, but more and more players start learning about it and some even started to use it - can you bring it up ASAP, so it's fixed before it becomes the next 1shot lance pandemia?
And it was indeed fixed in a matter of days as it's major exploit.

It's just funny how you contradict yourself:
Zohann wrote:we after some studies discoverred how he did that and sent this report to devs.

Zohann wrote:Strangely, but we knew about this bug, though we never used it, even though we have many people to troll around. That just reveals your attitude.


So which one is it? :) Because for me it's the 2nd given that I was poked "from your side" about it and asked to bring it up.
And it would be spoiling if it was JH or part of a raid, not going solo at prime time knowing there are GMs ON to ban me like 2 minutes after I kill a dagfin )


Em, whats the contradiction? We discovered the bug, reported it and never used it ourselves.

You discovered the bug, reported it and used it to troll.

You think its ok to use bugs to troll people?

Sharana wrote:Idk - the only place I said "Masons" is where I said that Anatolij was on a Discord meeting organised by DAC along with representatives of BP and many other guilds. The result was that everyone agreed not to post videos using the night vision "hack" and that leaders should at least give and example by not using it.
And Anatolij later on posted a video where it can be seen that he uses it.

If that's "every single political thread is started with discussions about masons" you have some strange views and just see your name even if it's not there :)


That actually was not adressed to you, but to the thread owners. If you think that all my posts are adressed to you then you have some strange views and just see your name even if it's not there :)
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Post by Sharana » 31 Jul 2017, 12:51

Zohann wrote:Em, whats the contradiction? We discovered the bug, reported it and never used it ourselves.


So if you discovered it long ago AND reported it the proper way - why didn't the devs know about this bug? Why did they have to learn from me and fix it the next day if you did indeed report it long before that?
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Post by Zohann » 31 Jul 2017, 13:05

Sharana wrote:
Zohann wrote:Em, whats the contradiction? We discovered the bug, reported it and never used it ourselves.


So if you discovered it long ago AND reported it the proper way - why didn't the devs know about this bug? Why did they have to learn from me and fix it the next day if you did indeed report it long before that?


Who said that we discovered it long ago? We learnt about it after youve used it on dagfinns. You say that you have already reported it and proved it, so our report was useless, as the bug was fixed the next day, as you say. I did not say that it was fixed because of us. You are a good boy in that matter, but using this bug to troll people was a dirty thing.

What if I do this to ya, will you be happy? There are lots ways to troll people aside using bugs or exploits, as that is the most dirty one.

We have already experience of such trolls with another BP guild, who lost its castle and decided "to leave the server, but to have some fun before that". They switched on this god mode and started trying to save their castle. The next JH the god mode troll guy was carrying an explosive barrel). He failed though, cause we uncovered how to counter it with poisons.

Dear troll bug users, I repeat, there are lots of ways to troll people aside using bugs and exploits.
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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Haci » 31 Jul 2017, 16:02

Nojo, to by nebyl Kazar aby se po čase neprobudil a zase nerozvířil debatu o poukazování a házení špíny kolem. Pro normální hráče opravdu užitečné.

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Post by Pajkazed » 31 Jul 2017, 16:40

Tak pokud ti přijde lepší to, že je toto cz/sk forum naprosto mrtvé tak se nemusíš vůbec vyjadřovat.
Jediný kdo sem občas hodí koment nebo topic je Kazar a jako protistrana se ozve věrný Sainse, nikdo další se tady nevyjadřuje.
Až na "dnešní" vzácnou návštěvu z BP a USH. :D
Po pravdě když se tady začalo komunikovat ohledně cheatů a bugů vzpoměl jsem si na Kejtíka a ty se hned jako jeho tehdejší zastánce ozveš, to mě celkem pobavilo. :ROFL:
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Post by Haci » 31 Jul 2017, 16:43

No a jsme u toho.. :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL: :ROFL:

Hned nějakej Kejtík a rozhejbání vlákna za každou cenu. Proč ježiš...

Nebudu tu ztrácet čas, co sem chtěl napsat to sem napsal. Ty věčný zastánce a ochránce Kazara. ;)

Díky za reakci a ty následující...

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Re: Aktuálne dianie na MMO mape

Post by Kazar » 31 Jul 2017, 18:02

Aj keď tu píšu iné národnosti, nechcem písať po Eng. Keď niekto chce si to aj tak preloží.

Zohan prečo si myslíš že všetko čo tu je o Masonoch je shit a klamstvo ? Sharana ti vysvetlil zopár tvojich zavádzajúcich prípevkov. Keď poviem pravdu, tak keď čítam tvoje vyjadrenia, aj za celú guildu, všetko čo hovoria je: "my nič my sme tí dobrí, oni, oni sú tí zlí !" nič viac. Pri každom príspevku si hovorím "trafená hus zagágala". Niekedy my je vážne z toho zle, ako môžete veriť že všetky bugy, vojny, za všetko zlé na MMO svete môže nikto iný ako BP?

Hači, mám zakázané informovať ľud o nových informáciach čo sa dejú na MMO mape ? Aby si prípadne mohli lepšie vybrať, alebo sa aspoň vyhnúť konfliktu ? Pre normálných hráčov nieje užitočné vedieť čo spravil BP, čo spravilo USH, čo spravil DAC, atď ?

Dobre ja poviem niečo zo strany BP, Sainse niečo zo strany USH(aj keď si myslím že to hovorí až moc propagačne a štýlom ukazovania prstom,ale toto zase ja nemusím videiť na svojich príspevkoch...), a nakoniec uštipačná a "užitočná" poznámka od ... Hačiho.

Poznámka na koniec. BP nieje vytvorený na to aby bojoval proti USH.

P.S.: poďme presunúť topic do "Off-Topic". :twisted:
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