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Точно не знаю исправлено это было, или нет (после перехода на DX11 я долго не играл), но на всякий случай предложу.

На данный момент Строевая подготовка совершенно бесполезное умение: 1)не дают достаточно ощутимых бонусов, 2) очень сложен в координировании, 3) очень дорог по пунктам умений.

Но ведь для чего-то это умение было добавлено? А раз оно было добавлено, значит оно обязано приносить пользу! Ну или хотя-бы быть более дешёвым.
Я считаю что вернуть полезность этого умения поможет решение нескольких проблем:


1) Разная скорость персонажей.
Вполне логично что боец в кожаных доспехах двигается быстрее латника, однако... В формации не должно быть быстрее или медленнее, в формации все двигаются с единой скоростью как единый организм, если данное условие не выполнено, то это не формация, а стадо.

Решение проблемы: в районе формации все кто находится в группе двигаются с усреднённой скоростью, либо со скоростью самого медленного персонажа. Выходя за отметку формации, персонаж возвращает себе нормальную скорость.


2) Способность "Move" = развал формации.
Вы пробовали бегать в формации клин, когда лидер ускоряет отряд? На это забавно смотреть. Единственный кто бежит с высокой скоростью: лидер. Остальные пытаются догнать его, и хотя-бы за краешек зацепить отмеченную зону. А всё потому что у всех разная скорость реакции + пинг (далеко не у всех он меньше 50). Когда персонаж лидера начинает двигаться, остальные стоят на месте (ну либо лидер упирается в спину впереди идущего), в итоге получается что задний ряд бойцов вываливается за пределы формации (не успели среагировать), и не получают бонусов к скорости, а значит догнать её они уже не смогут.

Решение проблемы: Немного увеличить размеры отметок, чтобы в отряде могли спокойно идти несколько больше, чем 2-3 персонажа. Думаю что увеличение в 1,5 раза даст достаточную фору всем персонажам отряда.


3) Резкая смена направлений.
Единственная формация не подверженная этой беде: Круг. У него нет углов которые могут вдруг уйти из под ног, при смене направления движения лидера. Этой болезнью очень страдает Линия. Понимаю что линия в LiF мало предназначена для этого, однако даже в ряду копейщиков нужно крутиться, слегка подходить, слегка отходить, наносить удары! Когда Лидер формации начинает вертеться, вся группа теряет бонусы.

Решение проблемы: будет логичнее если повороты формации будут зависеть от местонахождения персонажей группы, а не того, куда смотрит Лидер.


4) Дорого и бессмысленно качать.
Эта проблема появилась совсем недавно, когда обновили ветку раскачки персонажей. Строй закинут в дальний угол ветки копейщиков, из за чего стал совершенно невыгоден для раскачки. Отсутствие выгоды в том что для его раскачки требуется потратить... 180 из 400 доступных скиллпоинтов. Половину! Минимум! На совершенно сырой и бесполезный скилл. Полезен он только для копейщиков, чтобы ненадолго заткнуть собой пролом в стене (До подхода вражеских латников, после чего копейщики становятся смазкой для клинков).

Решение проблемы: Перевести умение Строевой подготовки в общедоступное умение (как, например Кольчужные доспехи). Тогда им сможет пользоваться и тяжёлая пехота (которой очень пригодится "Move"), и щитоносцы (которым будет полезно всё умение целиком).


Если исправить всё вышеперечисленное, я уверен, это умение станет одним из самых используемых в битвах и стычках между группами игроков.
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I'm not sure it was corrected or not (after switching to DX11, I have not played for a long time), but in any case offer.

Currently Drill completely useless ability to: 1) do not provide enough tangible bonuses, 2) very difficult to coordinate, 3) is very expensive for skill points.

But for some reason this skill has been added? And once it has been added, then it is bound to benefit! Well, or at least, would be cheaper.
I believe that the return to the usefulness of this skill will help the solution of several problems:


1) Different speed of the characters.
It is only logical that the warrior in leather armor, cuirassier moves faster, but ... The formation should not be faster or slower, in the formation all moving with uniform speed as a single organism, if this condition is not satisfied, it is not a formation, and the herd.

Solution: in the area of ​​formation of all who are in the group move to the averaged velocity, or the speed of the slow character. Going beyond the mark formation, the character regains normal speed.


2) The ability to "Move" = collapse of the formation.
Have you tried to run in a wedge formation, when the leader accelerates the detachment? In this fun to watch. Who only runs at high speed: the leader. The others try to catch up with him, and though, would be to catch the edge of the marked zone. And all because of all the different reaction rate + Ping (not all it is less than 50). When the leader of the character begins to move, the rest are in place (well, a leader rests on the back of the front walking), in the end it turns out that back row men falls outside of the formation (did not have time to react), and do not receive bonuses to speed, so to catch up with her, they no longer able to.

Solution: Slightly increase the size of the marks to the detachment could safely go a few more than 2-3 characters. I think that the increase of 1.5 times over the odds to give sufficient characters squad.


3) A sharp change in direction.
The only not subject to the formation of the trouble: Circle. He does not have corners that can suddenly go away from under the feet, when the direction of movement leader. This disease suffers line. I understand that the line in LiF is little to do, but even among the spearmen need to spin, slightly approached lightly depart, strike! When the leader of the formation begins to spin, the entire group loses bonuses.
Solution: be logical if the formation will depend on the location of the characters turns the group, not on where Leader looks.


4) Expensive and senseless swing.
This problem has only recently emerged as updated branch swinging characters. Story curled into the far corner branches spearmen, because of what has become quite disadvantageous to the buildup. The lack of benefit in that it takes to spend his swing ... 180 of the 400 available skillpointov. Half! Minimum! On a completely crude and useless skill. It is useful only for the lancers to briefly stop up a hole in the wall (before the approach of enemy cuirassiers, then spearmen are lubricated for the blades).

Solution: Translate the ability to drill in a common ability (eg Chain Armor). Then they will be able to enjoy and heavy infantry (which is very useful to "Move"), and the shield-bearer (which will be useful for all skill entirely).


If you fix all of the above, I am sure, is the ability to become one of the most used in the battles and skirmishes between groups of players.
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    Tuesday, January 24 2017, 06:11 PM - #Permalink
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    Забыл ещё один пункт.

    5) Смерть лидера = уничтожение отряда
    Это конечно логично... для плохо организованных крестьян. Но для воинов, для тех кто родился с оружием в руках (и помрёт с ним) это не нормально. В последний раз когда я умирал, будучи лидером отряда, отметка формации переносилась вместе со мной на спавн (около года назад). Для меня, как отдельного персонажа, это было хорошо. Для отряда, это была потеря скорости, бонусов защиты и урона...

    Решение проблемы: после смерти лидера отряда, отметка формации перекидывается на того, у кого наиболее высокий уровень умения "Строевая подготовка".
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    I forgot one more point.

    5) The death of the leader of the same troop deaths
    This course ... it is logical for the poorly organized peasants. But for the soldiers, for those who were born with arms (and will die with it) is not normal. The last time I died, being a squad leader, a mark formation was transferred with me to the spawn (about a year ago). For me as a single character, it was good. For the squad, it was a loss of speed, protection and damage bonuses ...

    Solution: after detachment of the leader's death, the mark formation spreads to one who has the highest level of ability "Drill".
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