Life is Feudal Official Forum

[Namus]

You have to concider that the majority of the playerbase are LIF YO owners newcomers are not, thus wiping after a whole year of playing will kill the game if you think about it, unless the game gets overwhelmed in some sense and then we agree to a wipe.

Doesn't have to be many many ppl are waiting for MMO like me and haven't played YO because they are not into small scale online games.
That being said i am pretty sure 95% of players would not want to invest 1 year of hard work into something that would get wiped only small % of hardcore players would do that.

[Ubaciosamse]

There are a few large groups counting houndreds of players that hare here for 2 years or so, but i might be wrong it's just how i get the picture.

[Azzerhoden]

only small % of hardcore players would do that.

For the record, the correct term for describing us is "no-lifers", but there is a concerted effort to modify this to the more accurate and literal description of 'pro-LIFers'.

[Cian]

Meh. I'm not so emotionally invested that I'm going to throw a fit about it.

But I will continue to be concerned. Mass testing hasn't occurred on any sort of large scale. Then BOOM we go straight to Beta 2 and essentially open the flood gates.

Are we saying that Wave 2 is expected to be nearly finished and almost totally bug free? Because without a wipe anyone who abuses or exploits bugs for personal game will not have their illicit abuse wiped at the end of the wave.

Thats the problem with a "soft" release. Developers are hesitant to ban people for finding and exploiting bugs to report but they don't want to wipe people's progress either.

[Wookiee420]

Meh. I'm not so emotionally invested that I'm going to throw a fit about it.

But I will continue to be concerned. Mass testing hasn't occurred on any sort of large scale. Then BOOM we go straight to Beta 2 and essentially open the flood gates.

Are we saying that Wave 2 is expected to be nearly finished and almost totally bug free? Because without a wipe anyone who abuses or exploits bugs for personal game will not have their illicit abuse wiped at the end of the wave.

Thats the problem with a "soft" release. Developers are hesitant to ban people for finding and exploiting bugs to report but they don't want to wipe people's progress either.

You need to relax and reread the internet. Beta Wave #1 hasnt occured yet not till the 14th of December and it runs till about May. In May or June Beta Wave #2 starts. Thats 4-5 months of testing the server.

[Cian]

Try not to be so condescending my friend. I am well aware of what each stage of the beta is.

Beta 1 is still NOT large scale testing and if you think the majority of issues will be discovered there then I think you are fooling yourself.

Beta 2 will be when the largest amount of players are doing activities and playing the game full blast. This will also be when you find the majority of the remaining major bugs and exploits.

Like it or not any bugs discovered WILL impact the game play of the larger guilds that discover them. My point still stands. You can't punish them for beta testing and you don't plan to wipe their illicit gains so what do you do? Just accept that they gained an advantage over everyone else?

[Fizzleton]

About lack of wipe at the end of Wave #2 - Remember that basically, everyone will be able to join that last beta stage. After the final release, it will still be mostly the same players and obviously the same rules. Not much will change at this point so we don't see a reason to wipe all the progress of hundreds - if not thousands - of players after long months of playing. Even if we did wipe it all, a player that would join the game after a month or two after the final release would be in an identical situation as a player who will join after wave #2 is over.

One more thing you should think about. During wave #2 players will establish a proper economy and politics, so people that will join upon the final release won't be joining into a chaotic, empty world without the slightest idea what to do, but the world where existing settlements will be waiting for a fresh blood, with smaller and bigger communities ready to help the newcomers and give them purpose.

Please remember, that one year is a pretty damn long time. There may occur bugs by accident you don't even imagine right now and there will be hundreds or thousands of players that are affected by those bugs.

There will be two sides as usual - one side will take big advantage of accidental gamebreakers and the other side will be left behind broke af.

Side note: Other MMOs have shown it many times in the past, how minor "balance" adjustments can let you faceroll through the game.

On the other hand, do you really think it's a good idea to "release" a game when the hierarchy is already set in stone?

There will be winners, there will be losers - but after one year, I suppose this will be very clear after such a long time has gone into the land.

How are you selling this to people who want to buy a recently released game? They are basically buying a game that has taken place one year earlier.

If I buy a game on 1st of December, that releases on 1st of December, I imagine players being level one (or similiar based on the type of game) and starting from scrap just like I do.

[Namus]

The thing is that exploits can come up no matter how much you test it. Look at Archeage it had tons of exploits and hacks despite being LIVE in Korea for a long time and several large scale beta tests...

Even if people discover exploit chances are they wont say anything about it so that they get advantage over others. Sadly we live in a world like that.

[Cian]

I'll sum it up like this.

EVERY time I try to get people to join a sandbox game I hear the same old mantra.

" I missed the release. Everyone's already claimed all the good spots. It's not worth playing. I'll wait for the next sandbox game to come along so I can play from a fresh start"

If the definition of beta vs release is unclear. If people ASSUME that release is release and beta is beta. A whole crowd of potential players may turn away from the game in the future once they realize they are late to the party.

Do what you will with that. You can't please everyone. I just want to see LIF succeed and attract more than just a small dedicated community. It will never be a multi-million player game, but a few tens of thousands of players would be nice.

Heck Darkfall never passed 100,000 and they did alright for about a year.

[Cian]

The thing is that exploits can come up no matter how much you test it. Look at Archeage it had tons of exploits and hacks despite being LIVE in Korea for a long time and several large scale beta tests...

Even if people discover exploit chances are they wont say anything about it so that they get advantage over others. Sadly we live in a world like that.

I played early release Archage. It was a goat show. Thousands of players quit in the first week after the initial land grab was botched and ruined by poor planning and script abusing hackers auto claiming land.

Thousands more quit in the following weeks as hackers and large guilds abused the trade system to mass farm gold and hyper-inflate the economy so badly that a casual player hard no chance of buying land from another player.

I was a hard core player and I saw all that. I don't want to see such similar things happen here. I'd like to see Wave 2 be a proper beta and not a soft release.

What I want is irrelevant. The developers do as they please. As a customer I only express my opinion on the subject.

[Sp00nzer]

2017 !

не бери в голову ))) просто у меня кнопка аннигиляции на LIF стоит на 31.12.2016)))
есть такое слово у русских терпение и оно походу лопнуло)))

Write English or German then we can help you

[R4m8o85]

is there a fix date for Beta #2 start now?

[Hughesmatthew1986]

Im also wondering when the beta will actually start?

i have paid my money but cant find any actual information on it?

[Burne109]

well they mentioned around the end of april for the next phase.

[Azzerhoden]

April was for phase 3 of beta test wave #1. The rough estimate for beta wave #2 was mostly player driven (summer), but its more realistic to think this fall.

There will be e-mails sent for the start of the next testing phase, and you can expect an even larger marketing push for the start of wave 2.

[Raging]

When is the next Beta Wave any info on it am looking forward to get into game for the 1st time?????

[Olivemanchester]

When is the next Beta Wave any info on it am looking forward to get into game for the 1st time?????

The next Beta wave is expected at the end of April. Now you have about a month to prepare for it

Don't forget to check beta access here https://lifeisfeudal.com/billing/status.php?game=1

[Rouge]

Ok, so it's the middle of May, I paid for a supporter pack, and downloaded the beta software.......

Every time I log in it tells me that the only server is down for maintenance.

Is there a schedule somewhere that will tell me when the server is available?

[Tharkun]

Ok, so it's the middle of May, I paid for a supporter pack, and downloaded the beta software.......

Every time I log in it tells me that the only server is down for maintenance.

Is there a schedule somewhere that will tell me when the server is available?

Bad timing. The game is in the break of beta phase 1.3 and 1.4. Devs are hoping to start phase 1.4 end of June.
I don't think there will be any server available until then.

[Lon_obers]

Would be great to get an exact date for when the new wave starts, considering it is almost end of June.

[MarioBuilder]

Today I heard about this game to the very first time and my god I got excited. So I started to look for info how do I get my hands on it, and I even read that you can try it for free on newbie servers. So that all is cool. But I have to say a few unpleasant things.
1.If the servers are currently closed, an info should be written with big f*****g letters on home website.
2. I shouldnt have to dig into forum to look for some information from developers about planned date of next beta start. Why? Because I'm paying money that I have to work really hard for, and I expect something more than outdated post on the forum from god knows how many months ago and then radio silence.
If I'm wrong please correct me and I'll offer my apologies. And I am also sorry that what I wrote is harsh but the lack of information doesn't really make your company look trustworthy, and I got really excited about it.
Edit: Ok so I already have to apologise. I found your facebook page and a webside play.lifeisfeudal.com that has more information than lifeisfeudal.com( I dont know why the sites are separated like that). But still guys you can do better job informing people about the details.

[Gruber]

1.If the servers are currently closed, an info should be written with big f*****g letters on home website.

The word BETA is written big fat on the mainpage. There is no way you can not see it. As long as you do not have access to the beta, you do not need information about server status.
If you want to be part of the beta, there is plently of information about it, before you pay for something.

Beta do not mean that there is access for everyone...

[Lon_obers]

1.If the servers are currently closed, an info should be written with big f*****g letters on home website.

The word BETA is written big fat on the mainpage. There is no way you can not see it. As long as you do not have access to the beta, you do not need information about server status.
If you want to be part of the beta, there is plently of information about it, before you pay for something.

Beta do not mean that there is access for everyone...

The page only promotes that you WILL get BETA access when you pay the money, this is what MarioBuilder did, but he cannot play now. It should indeed be mentioned on the page where it is promoted that servers are closed until further notice. Currently it is misleading, it is written as if you can start playing right away. Also the link which should show server status redirects to the homepage where you can buy the game.

[Gruber]

The page only promotes that you WILL get BETA access when you pay the money

Actually look up the mainpage, as i can see you haven´t done it.

Access to All Closed Betas
"Exclusive access to all future Сlosed Beta's. Next CBT (Closed Beta Test) as a part of Beta Wave #1 is scheduled to February 2017. All qualified participants will be notified once it goes live."


If you ask me, that is pretty much enough info. No where is to read that the beta is live. A beta is always some sort of limited or sheduled. I ask again, du you know what a beta means? As long as it do not say, OPEN BETA,PLAY NOW, FREE TRAIL, there is always some sort of limitation.

If you fly over a wall of text without reading and insta pay, i have bad news for you.