Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

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Agathius
 
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Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Agathius » 03 Apr 2018, 17:44

I heard the opinions of some ppl in Forums and in the Faction i am in, so i decided to paste this here. However one must never be announced if you ever by miracle decide so, because everyone will stop playing :D

Wipe Avalon. Why?

-We have nothing to loose, Avalon is dying.
-A lot of people would come back.
-It would be a good thing if accompanied with a major patch.
-It would be a solution for the instability and inequal starts in early OBT.
-It would collaborate with changes to current mechanics that ought to make Avalon a pvp srv. Make JH one day but destroy everything, make open world pvp more by giving content to the south like trees and other benefits which will result in less open world ping in half of the regions.

In general, i am visioning a server where JH is once per week but you can destroy anything, even in town claim. A world where server population is divided equally due to equal advantages both south and north. I know it seems like am talking about a different game, but seriously, just a wipe would maybe do this favor. if accompanied by a correct patch that will bring back the lost plaerbase.

Note: This would solve the other servers. A lot would pop on Avalon like this. I am sure you do not want the 500 player servers existant, spreading the already small community and killing the game, as same i do.

A server where ppl would start an an equal ground, choose more wisely where to settle and not in CBT standards, and a server that is actually PvP and not an endless castle collection of plant fiber lords.
I know most will view this with distrust due to the work they've done withought thinking of long term benefits. However i risk it by pasting this here.

This is aimed towards the playerbase but also to Bobik. I am sure ALL Of LiF wants to know the dev plans. But there needs to be a solution, the game is slowly dying and we are concerned as much as you are.

Some say JH. Some say Wipe. Some say Open World.
But all can come in one, by my opinion.
Thoughts?
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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Sycopata666 » 03 Apr 2018, 17:48

My personal conclusion:
1-Wipe
2-Remove city claim
3-Make houses, Workshops, Stables and Monument, inmune in JH
4-Make walls vulnerable in JH and let enemy open storages.
5- 1 or 2 JH every weak. 2 Hours prime time
6- Increase the number of monument Tiers, max size of the claim from the first day
7- Instanced battle no longer reduce claim size. Just reduce monument tier. You can reduce monument at special tier 0 "rdy to siege" if you do it this monument are vulnerable in JH, also houses, workshops, stables.
8- You can recive just one iB at same hour timer
10- ib times reduced to 20:00 21:00 22:00 max 3 ib each day.

Pros:
-More variety and creative casttles / Cities
-More important neighbor politics and diplomatics
-No total destruction JH
-No boring JH
-You can hide important stuff inside houses.
-You feel really a dangerous and feudal world.
-Anty zerg alliance ib drop
- Fun

Contras:
-You cant play alone and no use dioplomacy and expect survive
-Settle is harder and grow is harder.


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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Ilja » 04 Apr 2018, 15:03

New map, then wipe/transfer Avalon. Smart and fair JH mechanics making it really special event that matters, make us WANT to play JH.


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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Papagelos » 04 Apr 2018, 16:10

A lot of the guys that quit my guild would come back if there was a new map to go to and start from scratch again.

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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Hodo » 04 Apr 2018, 18:36

Papagelos wrote:A lot of the guys that quit my guild would come back if there was a new map to go to and start from scratch again.


Not mine.

Not unless there was some SWEEPING changes that improved the game.

Let me think of the short list we had.
-Better more stable NA servers.
-Removal of safe zones during JH.
-Working Siege mechanics.
-Stable working Instance Battles.

These are just a few things.
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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Papagelos » 04 Apr 2018, 19:17

Hodo wrote:
Papagelos wrote:A lot of the guys that quit my guild would come back if there was a new map to go to and start from scratch again.


Not mine.

Not unless there was some SWEEPING changes that improved the game.

Let me think of the short list we had.
-Better more stable NA servers.
-Removal of safe zones during JH.
-Working Siege mechanics.
-Stable working Instance Battles.

These are just a few things.


Point being we would need a few months of skillup/building phase before the big wars began, which in turn would give bitbox some time to fix the major bugs and balance things up.


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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Azzak » 04 Apr 2018, 21:15

Wipe ? Not in favor of that. You'll lose the people still playing.

Just make the features that Hodo wrote and it'll be enough for ppl to come back.


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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Yhym » 04 Apr 2018, 21:21

Naval Action choose the way of wipe, one after another. From 3000 online in one year they finish with 200 and working on new game. Good luck with this stupid suggestion. Wipe = a quick death for any official project like this. Do you know why people are playing official servers ? Why i am playing this server not keep playing Your Own ? Because any other private project is dying in one or two year. Official means alive for a years.


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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by TheBruce » 04 Apr 2018, 21:39

Wipe would have been the best option, IF the beta had been free and IF people didn't spent real money for boost/skins/premium.
So, to me character wipe is pure madness. Only-map wipe could be an option if the point was to transfer all population from the three server on a single one.

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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Agathius » 05 Apr 2018, 11:43

Just so happens, Naval action merged the dead servers and wiped only recently, and it's population was multiplied :lol:
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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Ilja » 05 Apr 2018, 13:06

it wasn't even a wipe, u could reedem all your stuff as consumables, but ye from few servers with around 20-60 pop in prime time they went to stable 500 on one pvp server and more ppl is coming back after recent changes.


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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by IamHe » 07 Apr 2018, 16:35

1- if chars get wiped there will be HUGE shit storm (and demands for refunds probably) - has the potential to kill game outright so i cant imagine devs EVER doing it

2- if its map wipe without char wipe it would make sense only with substantial improvements (like in Hodo list), additional content (npc for example) AND server merge

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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Agathius » 07 Apr 2018, 22:56

I already stated that there OUGHT to be not a refund but a ticket save (For example someone that had 6 chars should get 6 tickets).

And if you check the title you'll see it says after NPC patch. If you learn how to read you'll see i mentioned multiple times that this ought to come with some game breaking patch such as southern content for settling, otherwise it's suicide.

By this point you are simply stating the obvious :fool:
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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Krakowiak » 08 Apr 2018, 02:27

by people like Agathius - MMO games are dying. Man, you are handicapped - pay me back for boost / skins / premium and time? Wip = rob people!

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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Agathius » 08 Apr 2018, 03:20

Yeah, this one game is definitely not dying already. :lol:

Pay you back for Skins, Power hours? Are you joking? Tickets are a permanent thing in this game that if some wipe ever happened is the only thing that they'd repay back. And rightly so.

Or did you think skins and power hours lasted forever? You're in a Beta, you take the blame and you'd easily take the same for tickets. Nevertheless irrelevant - present arguements
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Re: Wipe Avalon after NPC Patch

Post by Mark-holt » 08 Apr 2018, 19:52

I'll bet my house that Bobik won't wipe Avalon. He may tweak the rules to make it more harsh or add a new server but will never wipe it, even if it's for the best.

Had we known then what we know now, there would've already been a harsh and unforgiving pvp world. And there would be no need for wipes if guilds are constantly getting conquered.

It's best to see which online mmos have seen success after a wipe and which haven't. As a user above pointed out, Naval Action suffered from a wipe. Maybe there are mmos which thrived after a wipe.

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