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Why people are angry ? Here your answer.

Post by Malkbeth » 02 Apr 2018, 00:39

English isn't my first language but I have a good point.

Im playing since 2 months, I was thinking how lucky to find few guilds that just give up and let all their stuff there. So I can take it and other scavanger too. I was thinking well they found another spot !

I know the game is in a alpha stage and there will be bugs, problems etc, and just deal with it. Just don't take anything for granted and anything can just vanish and it's normal, it's alpha. Maybe anything will reset and everything will just go away. That's not the problem.

I took a lot of high quality ore in a abandoned guild thinking hey im lucky ! 100 quality fertile dirt too. Well there is a bug now, the ore is gone and the dirt is now 1 quality. At first I was thinking well someone took it, good for those guy, it's fair play but not. I found out that that's buged, the dirt the ore. I found out too that people don't move, just stop playing and go do something else. But hey ! We got some good updates ! We got pink rabbit ears on ours horses ! We can buy a lot of skins for 100$ of cash !

Stop working on useless thing that people don't give a f*ck like pink rabbit ears and skin and before adding ANYTHING fix what's isn't working. Players go aways, whole freaking guilds because you don't focuse on the game.

I LOVE the game really, but I feel quite alone now. Well it easy, I can get the best just looking around but that's sucks too because I didn't see anyone in the central domaine because the guilds, players are all gone because they don't give a sh*t about your "updates" they just want to be able to play some hours without fighting bugs for 2-3 by day.

And why the hell we don't have a ticket system for support ? Why we have to get on discord to get some support ? We all paid, we should have AT least a built in support.

No one give a sh*it about your skins and rabbit pink ears on a horse, we want to play, we want that you work on the bugs/problems and we can wait for weeks ! Just stop adding stupid useless shit and work on the game.

Peace, I think the game design is awesome, it's what should look like Ultima Online today but please focus. Why I would pay over 100$ us on a freaking skin anyway ? For a alpha game ? Not a chance.

Im very serious, if you would work and focus on what is important, im willing and would be happy to pay 25$ to 40$ a month to play.

Hey but at least it's not so bad ! My horse can just vanish if I cross a server line but it got pink bunny ears ! So it's all fine ! Good work, we needed that bunny thing bad and more skin, like the shovel skin, we need it bad of course.


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Re: Why people are angry ? Here your answer.

Post by Azzak » 02 Apr 2018, 08:23

1) Your complaints about skins show that you don't know how game development goes.

What do you want the artists to do apart from more skins ? Get into the code and fix the bugs themselves ? :D

Thing is, either the artist team is dismissed and we have no more skins, or they keep them so they can sell and bring more money to the game.

Are the skins over-priced ? HELL YES. But that's not the point.

2) I'm pretty sure the rabbits ears date back from YO easter events. And Tbh it's really not that hard to model...

3) The real issues/bugs of the game are much harder to tackle than it appears. So it takes time and in the meantime the game dies because they released it way before it was ready, probably for financial reasons (as always).

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Re: Why people are angry ? Here your answer.

Post by Hodo » 02 Apr 2018, 12:54

Honestly his issues are valid, and I know a lot of people have been turned off by this... haphazard development cycle.

I understand that artists dont do much coding, but they could work on other graphics glitches, and other skin options for armor we have, you know things people MIGHT actually want.

Like Khoor armor options for leather, or the other 2 races for the other armor options?

I mean come on... you kind of dropped the ball there.


Skin options for other weapons and even shields.

Just saying, shovels was pointless.
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Re: Why people are angry ? Here your answer.

Post by Malkbeth » 05 Apr 2018, 01:05

Azzak wrote:1) Your complaints about skins show that you don't know how game development goes.

What do you want the artists to do apart from more skins ? Get into the code and fix the bugs themselves ? :D

Thing is, either the artist team is dismissed and we have no more skins, or they keep them so they can sell and bring more money to the game.

Are the skins over-priced ? HELL YES. But that's not the point.

2) I'm pretty sure the rabbits ears date back from YO easter events. And Tbh it's really not that hard to model...

3) The real issues/bugs of the game are much harder to tackle than it appears. So it takes time and in the meantime the game dies because they released it way before it was ready, probably for financial reasons (as always).


I understand what you mean but do they pay for the graphics designer ? If yes, they need to hire more coders and less graphics designer for some time at least. But yes you right, it's 2 differents things.

And now, again I got again a situation to show my point:

The the recent little update, my horse is back to normal but now my map is bugged with my two characters and im lost, I tired to find my way back for two hours. So I closed the game, did house work and stuffs for 8 hours. The map still bugged, did a repair nothing work.

But hey, the shovel is -10% now !

Maybe now you see what I mean, ANY update can cause problems to any games / app. This useless update block me from playing since almost a day now, I paid to play I want to be able to play. I understand is alpha and it's normal thats breaks time to time, but now it's broken for what ? Because they tried to put the ships ? Nope. Because they tried to add more land ? No. Oh because they tried a patch to fix the current bugs ? No.

I can't find the info on the patch but the only thing different is the bunny ears are gone and my minimnap is buged. So I guess it was to revert and it fuck*d up my map and probably others too.

It's serious, a lot people are leaving. It's a good game, they work on the bugs very hard, and the future look great but damn, they need to focus on the important. If they want to make more money, it's stupid to put virtual shovel skin, they should let pay our guild and personal claim with real money instead and virtual one. I would gladly like to pay 20$ a month knowing im help them to continue.

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Re: Why people are angry ? Here your answer.

Post by Arrakis » 05 Apr 2018, 10:39

Malkbeth wrote:The the recent little update, my horse is back to normal but now my map is bugged with my two characters and im lost, I tired to find my way back for two hours. So I closed the game, did house work and stuffs for 8 hours. The map still bugged, did a repair nothing work.


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    3. Press [Enter] to confirm
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Re: Why people are angry ? Here your answer.

Post by Parraman » 05 Apr 2018, 16:59

Don't worry, I think that he is not playing anymore
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Re: Why people are angry ? Here your answer.

Post by Azzak » 05 Apr 2018, 17:05

My post was a bit too optimistic yes, the game has serious issues that need to be fixed, especially regarding PVP.

It's also true that shovel skins are pointless, I've been begging for scale armor skins for slavard.

Still, problem is not the skins, it's all the rest.
Which is even worse when you think about it.

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Re: Why people are angry ? Here your answer.

Post by Parraman » 05 Apr 2018, 17:35

Azzak wrote:My post was a bit too optimistic yes, the game has serious issues that need to be fixed, especially regarding PVP.

It's also true that shovel skins are pointless, I've been begging for scale armor skins for slavard.

Still, problem is not the skins, it's all the rest.
Which is even worse when you think about it.


Im agree whith you about the PvP problem, but there is a big problem whith the PvE, I mean, what enemies are? wolfs and bears? the first week of game stops being a problem to dealing whith... so, at Epleland we can't PvE as you said, and we can not PvE because there is no enemies... so there are lot of server PvC (player versus Constructions) and this is why i'm angry
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Re: Why people are angry ? Here your answer.

Post by Malkbeth » 05 Apr 2018, 22:59

Parraman wrote:Don't worry, I think that he is not playing anymore

No I won't go away, like I said I love the game, the concept and etc is awesome. Plus the team, see ? In other games, admins would delete my post, there I know he read it AND he do support in the same time. It's very pro to act this way. I will say again.

The team is working hard, the concept, and everything is awesome. The problem is to focus on what is more needed . If they need more coders, they need more money, skins isn't the solution. It could be personal claim and guild claim that we can pay with god favors. Im sure there is other good ideas. That's my main point.

My second is, at this stage, they should be very careful before adding/removing anything with that in head " Is it useful and the risk worthy ? "

I searched on google, youtube, website, forum for my map problem, maybe my keyword wasn't right ? Or prehaps they should make with the forum or other a database with all bugs know and solution ? It would be more useful than a skin and gms will have less discord job to do too. Yes when you sell they sell a skin they make money but if they take to much time to find solutions to problems, re-install etc They WON'T want to put money in virtual items and they will go play something else.

This game is a gem, need to be polished the right way.


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Re: Why people are angry ? Here your answer.

Post by Yhym » 16 Apr 2018, 10:27

This is what you want:

No Skin No Money, No Money = No Stronger Server, less programist in the company it mens more bug in game.

This is what they are doing:

More Skin More Money, More Money = New Stronger Server which we gonna get them soon. Also more programist in the company it means less bug in game.

I think laaag problem is the main reason why people stop play a bit and complain about pvp, i don't like it either for now cuz this isn't funny with 500 ping. So in my opinion the artist team is working on main issue right now. Price of the skins are crazy as hell, but it should be a diffrent topic.

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