Life is Feudal Official Forum

[Hogweed]

Hi,

I am working on building a palisade, and am having a bit of a problem.

1) If the terrain height changes, I cant seem to get a level ground between the 2 different heights (in a straight line). I am working in a hilly area, so I need to be able to build this wall in a straight line along varying heights, but how do I do this if I cant level the terrain first? If I level one of the heights, the other height changes back. I wont be able to place the palisade wall then!

2) How effective are Palisades? I plan on digging one level down in front of the wall, so it would make it harder to try to jump over. Can people jump from 2 squares away and still make the wall? I am trying to lower all the areas outside the walls to prevent that.

Appreciate any and all help with these 2 issues, as they lowered the stone gathering rate, and stone walls over this size an area is way too much.

[Nopsi]

Hi,

I am working on building a palisade, and am having a bit of a problem.

1) If the terrain height changes, I cant seem to get a level ground between the 2 different heights (in a straight line). I am working in a hilly area, so I need to be able to build this wall in a straight line along varying heights, but how do I do this if I cant level the terrain first? If I level one of the heights, the other height changes back. I wont be able to place the palisade wall then!

2) How effective are Palisades? I plan on digging one level down in front of the wall, so it would make it harder to try to jump over. Can people jump from 2 squares away and still make the wall? I am trying to lower all the areas outside the walls to prevent that.

Appreciate any and all help with these 2 issues, as they lowered the stone gathering rate, and stone walls over this size an area is way too much.

to 1: you cant really build a palisade atm without GM Mode. you cant place them on the flattend downward / upward slope if you arent in a GM Mode.

to 2: on a pure PVP Server no wall is effective, you can build a stair or stair-like build with tables quite cheap and easy. physics...

on an rpg server or pve/pvp server with good rules you can live very secure with an palisade.

[McLeod_]

The way I did my palisade up a hill was as follows:

Start at the top (mine was 17) flatten a tile at 17 - flatten the tile below this one to 17 also.

Build the palisade on the upper tile.

Lower the second 17 to 16.5

Flatten the one below to 16.5 also

Build palisade

Repeat till complete, takes a while but looks cool and works.

Here is a screenie of what I ended up with.

[Atroxkeep]

You Could also ask your GM if they could place the foundation for your palisade wall on a flattened sloped for you then you add the materials and build it yourself. As GM's can only place wall foundations on sloped ground right now.

If you're going to used sloped ground remember it raises by 0.5 for every tile. it will only say 0.2 or 0.3 higher but thats the middle of the tile value. Only palisade and stone walls work on sloped ground, you can build wooden walls or castle walls with hordings on sloped but they come out looking stepped and regular castle walls only look right on sloped ground then the wall is facing South or East if its North or west it looks like the wall had the top 1/4 destroyed.

But if you want stepped fences then flatten the ground place your foundation then flatten the next step.

[Hogweed]

The way I did my palisade up a hill was as follows:

Start at the top (mine was 17) flatten a tile at 17 - flatten the tile below this one to 17 also.

Build the palisade on the upper tile.

Lower the second 17 to 16.5

Flatten the one below to 16.5 also

Build palisade

Repeat till complete, takes a while but looks cool and works.

Here is a screenie of what I ended up with.

Thanks everyone for the responses! I was wondering McLeod, are you a GM? The other guys are saying that I cant place the Palisades unless I am.

If you are not, then I should not have any problems giving that a try.

Thanks!

[Xarr666]

You can build steps like he did without a problem because he used "flatten ground" and not the "flat with down/up slope" option.
A problem is only for some directions on "flat slopes" where only GMs can build the foundations.

But like he said: he was doing it with "manual" steps, not down/up slopes. It works for stone walls aswell but if you have more than 0,2-0,3 bigger steps, you will have slight problems to walk upwards on the wall (need to jump etc).

I played with this stuff and all i can say is, try to avoid steep hills for your walls, it is annoying as hell even if you could build slopes, they have an angle which you can not change (always 0,5 lower/higher per tile).

[dingusmcgeehee]

You can build in the way that you described without GM mode, but it looks a bit awkward. I try to make a trade off with my players, and if they provide the materials for the walls I will build them for them. Maybe your server owner could do the same for you? No harm in asking I say...

[Xarr666]

You can build in the way that you described without GM mode, but it looks a bit awkward. I try to make a trade off with my players, and if they provide the materials for the walls I will build them for them. Maybe your server owner could do the same for you? No harm in asking I say...

The GM does not even need to finish the walls, it is enough to just place the walls(foundation/fundament) and the players can finish them. We did it on my server and it worked well.

[McLeod_]

Thanks everyone for the responses! I was wondering McLeod, are you a GM? The other guys are saying that I cant place the Palisades unless I am.

If you are not, then I should not have any problems giving that a try.

Thanks!

Nope not done in GM mode, as they said above I used teh step method so it didn't need Gm mode placement

[Balagor]

but then suddenly, tunnels and your base is permgriefed