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Bloomery

Post by Putzin » 25 Sep 2014, 02:10

Any idea on its use?


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Re: Bloomery

Post by Calinir » 25 Sep 2014, 06:54

It's used for smelting higher end metals like steel.


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Re: Bloomery

Post by IzznO » 25 Sep 2014, 15:49

Im wondering, does the blacksmith`s shop gives you steel?

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Re: Bloomery

Post by TyrelionPrime » 26 Sep 2014, 15:51

Just check the wikki: http://lifeisfeudal.gamepedia.com/Steel_ingot

As it states there, you need 2 iron ingots and 12 flux as "ingredients", smelting skill at lvl 60, smelting tools and a bloomery.

Steel bar:
http://lifeisfeudal.gamepedia.com/Steel_bar

2 iron bars, 6 flux, smelting skill 60, crucible and tongs at a bloomery

Lump of steel:
http://lifeisfeudal.gamepedia.com/Lump_of_steel

2 lumps of iron, 2 flux, crucible and thongs at a bloomery


I am assuming they also mean the crucible and thongs by the "smelting tools" listed with the steel ingots.


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Re: Bloomery

Post by Kossako » 26 Sep 2014, 15:56

Does Bloomery or Blasksmith Shop have more space than furnance (100) for melting ore?
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Re: Bloomery

Post by Asskicker666 » 01 Oct 2014, 22:23

Yeah bloomery is 400 if i remember correctly! And no the shop is just like an anvil.


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Re: Bloomery

Post by WhiteTree » 01 Oct 2014, 23:23

I think there is a glitch with the bloomery being required to make steel. People in the group that I play with were able to create steel using a forge and anvil, but we had to use charcoal as a fuel source.

Also, I can't confirm personally, but from what I've heard the blacksmith's shop can almost double the quality of items you create with it (also take into account blacksmith hammer and quality of materials you are using).

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Re: Bloomery

Post by Thylbanus » 02 Oct 2014, 00:59

What they said and you can recycle on this one. It can reach 2000 deg, plus it has a capacity of 400 rather than 100.
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Re: Bloomery

Post by StormCorpsFinest » 02 Oct 2014, 01:16

I have a strange bug where when I try to make steel out of flux and iron ingots, it allows me to melt it down - but I don't get the steel.

It takes the resources required but doesn't put any steel in my inventory. I have 100 in smelting whilst using a bloomery. What the hell?
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Re: Bloomery

Post by Uno » 02 Oct 2014, 08:44

My observations:

The glitch is with the wiki, not with the game.
The bloomery is only a second tier smelting device, which allows for higher quality than forge&anvil. However, Bloomery and smelting have some bugs currently. In the bloomery smelting steel doesn't work (as reported above), which is quite unfortunate given that the wiki states you need it to smelt steel. The bloomery is the only smelting device that currently allows you to smelt&recycle finished metal items, though.
Other professions share the same device progression as metalworking, with minor difference, anyways there are 3 device tiers from what I gathered. Higher tier devices might be a requirement for higher tier mats that we didn't get to work yet. For example in alchemy the first tier device mortar and pestle won't be enough to make potions.


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Re: Bloomery

Post by Revv » 02 Oct 2014, 08:54

Okay now I know for a fact that making steel DOES work and I will post yet another video to prove it if anyone wants to call me a liar on it. First off make sure you're inventory is not full then make sure you have the crucible and tongs EQUIPPED and make sure you have the required materials in the bloomery.

I haven't really taken much notice of how many but I think it is a 2:1 ratio so try putting at least 2 ingots in with some CHARCOAL as the fuel as wood will not work. Also make sure you have plenty of FLUX in there and that the ingots AND flux BOTH have a full temperature bar on them. Now you should be able to MELT into steel ingots. Another tip you may want to consider is having a good meal before hand to increase the skill points gained while smelting. Will post a vid soon anyway to show you all.


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Re: Bloomery

Post by Revv » 02 Oct 2014, 10:53

Okay so here it is, sorry it took so long I had to deal with a douche bag griefer on the server.

[youtube]cxiR5uUdG_8[/youtube]


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Re: Bloomery

Post by Zehive » 02 Oct 2014, 11:28

My group has just about finished making a bloomery, just for me to open this thread and have my hopes destroyed.


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Re: Bloomery

Post by Revv » 02 Oct 2014, 12:06

Zehive wrote:My group has just about finished making a bloomery, just for me to open this thread and have my hopes destroyed.

I take it you did not watch the video I just posted ealier right above your post? Why have your hopes been destroyed???
Does noone ever read the previous posts?

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Re: Bloomery

Post by StormCorpsFinest » 02 Oct 2014, 12:18

I do everything you show in that video to the exact, and get no steel. Though, some other players are able to make steel, but not me.

There is an underlying bug under all of this, that possibly corrupt character files server side.

I am using the primitive crucible and tongs though, I may have to use the metal ones.
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Re: Bloomery

Post by Revv » 02 Oct 2014, 12:25

StormCorpsFinest wrote:I do everything you show in that video to the exact, and get no steel. Though, some other players are able to make steel, but not me.

There is an underlying bug under all of this, that possibly corrupt character files server side.

I am using the primitive crucible and tongs though, I may have to use the metal ones.


I think I did mention you need the "crucible and tongs" which is the metal one


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Re: Bloomery

Post by Uno » 02 Oct 2014, 13:31

StormCorpsFinest wrote:I do everything you show in that video to the exact, and get no steel. Though, some other players are able to make steel, but not me.

There is an underlying bug under all of this, that possibly corrupt character files server side.

I am using the primitive crucible and tongs though, I may have to use the metal ones.


Did you read my post? Use forge and anvil or even better Blacksmith Shop to make steel.
The Bloomery is buggy when it comes to making steel.


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Re: Bloomery

Post by DaddyLovebone » 03 Oct 2014, 02:47

Blacksmith shop is bugged to me.


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Re: Bloomery

Post by Torxe » 03 Oct 2014, 07:49

Revv wrote:Okay so here it is, sorry it took so long I had to deal with a douche bag griefer on the server.

[youtube]cxiR5uUdG_8[/youtube]


haven't watched the video yet, so my apologies if it's mentioned in the vid.

Never tried making steel before but I'm planning on giving it a try later today.

I do have the question on how to get the temperature of a furnace or anvil (and the smelter that comes with it) above 1500 degrees.

In earlier smelting sessions using the bellows doesn't get the temperature above 1500degrees.

In before: yes I have a smelting skill above 60 (well above actually)

thx in advance


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Re: Bloomery

Post by WhiteTree » 03 Oct 2014, 07:55

Torxe wrote:
Revv wrote:Okay so here it is, sorry it took so long I had to deal with a douche bag griefer on the server.

[youtube]cxiR5uUdG_8[/youtube]


haven't watched the video yet, so my apologies if it's mentioned in the vid.

Never tried making steel before but I'm planning on giving it a try later today.

I do have the question on how to get the temperature of a furnace or anvil (and the smelter that comes with it) above 1500 degrees.

In earlier smelting sessions using the bellows doesn't get the temperature above 1500degrees.

In before: yes I have a smelting skill above 60 (well above actually)

thx in advance


To my knowledge, things like the Forge and Anvil have a max temp of 1500. The Bloomery, however, can reach the max temperature.


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Re: Bloomery

Post by Revv » 03 Oct 2014, 09:43

This is why people who say they make steel with a forge or blacksmith shop are full of it because the bloomery is the only one to my knowledge that can reach 2000 WITH flux AND charcoal. Watch the video it shows all of this and it only goes for a little over a minute

EDIT So apparently the forge and anvil can make SOME steel but the bloomery is for making ingots and some conversion processes. Check further down page or the wiki for details.
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Re: Bloomery

Post by Ebron » 03 Oct 2014, 11:19

It is, but the blacksmith shop should work as a bloomery and an forge and anvil because it's the final tier of the smith construcions. It even requires the material nedeed to build a bloomery and a forge and anvil so if it's not working for steel it's a bug


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Re: Bloomery

Post by Revv » 03 Oct 2014, 13:44

Uno wrote:the only one full of it on these forums is you Revv.

If Im so full of it what does the video I posted show you?
Let me guess you won't waste your time watching it because you're actually here to troll and not help?
EDIT: In fact why don't you EVER show proof on every thread I've seen you post you never show evidence you just spout nonsense and resort to targeting people who show you're wrong


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Re: Bloomery

Post by Uno » 03 Oct 2014, 13:51

as you very well already know, you are so full of it for claiming that forge and anvil and blacksmith shop can't make steel. You are the one who are giving bad advices without testing. Why don't you make a video in which you show how forge and anvil and blacksmith shop do not work?

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Re: Bloomery

Post by Rarp » 03 Oct 2014, 13:55

Getting a little heated in here. Guys, look at the wiki, it explains it pretty clearly:

Steel BAR can be made in anvil and forge

Steel INGOT can be made in bloomery. You can change one steel INGOT into 5 steel BARS so it's 25% more efficient to use the bloomery.

All have worked fine for me.
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Re: Bloomery

Post by Uno » 03 Oct 2014, 14:13

the wiki is wrong. It is wrong in other recipes too, like it says you need a workbench for a wheel when carpenters tools are enough. As I have already explained, the higher tier crafting devices are for better quality items (or so I read from the wiki itself), although it could be that some rare mats need them to be worked, like the special (vastasomething, I forgot) steel. I didn't come so far to test yet.

I will share an additional hint: you should never make bars because you waste materials. Make always ingots and smelt them in bars, you save mats (especially flux). It takes more time, sure, but your herbalists will thank you.

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Re: Bloomery

Post by Rarp » 03 Oct 2014, 14:16

Uno wrote:the wiki is wrong. It is wrong in other recipes too, like it says you need a workbench for a wheel when carpenters tools are enough. As I have already explained, the higher tier crafting devices are for better quality items (or so I read from the wiki itself), although it could be that some rare mats need them to be worked, like the special (vastasomething, I forgot) steel. I didn't come so far to test yet.


I was able to follow the recipe's exactly as it is on the wiki just fine. If you're having problems it's likely the server you're on has not applied SQL patches.
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Re: Bloomery

Post by Uno » 03 Oct 2014, 14:21

OMG do you even read what I write? The recipe is wrong in that it is not mandatory to use the bloomery as it states. Same mistake with the wheel I gave as example. Read posts properly please.

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Re: Bloomery

Post by Rarp » 03 Oct 2014, 14:38

Uno wrote:OMG do you even read what I write? The recipe is wrong in that it is not mandatory to use the bloomery as it states. Same mistake with the wheel I gave as example. Read posts properly please.


You clearly need to take a break from these forums :)
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Re: Bloomery

Post by DaddyLovebone » 04 Oct 2014, 02:37

So there's an sql patch for this too?!

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